Morphic Field Changes-Additions...

[Docresults]

Hello All,

Again I know this topic is not strictly hypnosis and yet a few of us have shown some interest in the past.

I just got back from helping to facilitate over 350 people at a Matrix Energetics (ME) seminar. It is a good study in conscious-unconscious and whatever term one has for the more than or greater than.

Each and every Matrix seminar I've attended has been different. Structurally/process-wise they are the same. A lot of the same metaphors etc. and yet energy wise and participant wise a seminar can run the gambit from subdued to wild and crazy.

When I first went to ME there was heavy reliance on the Quantum Physics model and now the shift has changed more to a Jesus metaphor. Not so much a religious idea or even a spiritual metaphor and more a physics and Jesus metaphor. It is sort of a pulling of the scientific (quantum) and the spiritual/mysterious (Jesus) together so as to tape into both morphic fields.

In fact Dr. Bartlett is putting the finishing touches on the next ME book. The working title right now is "The Physics of Jesus, Understanding how to create Miracles."

The biggest difference I've found with working with ME vs hypnosis, NLP etc so far is the sense of being in that area where there is very little control, very little structure or process and a lot of trust in that aspect of self or high self or God or Universe or whatever label one uses.

The best way I can describe it is every other modality I know has an analog structural/process to get results. With ME the extent of the structural/process is 1) set intent (which is really not necessary) 2) trust and let go

That is about the extent of the analog process. (There are other analog things one CAN do and yet they are encompassed in the two steps above. The majority of ME is the digital part where the you that you are aware of let's go and trust the more than and then shift happens.

For me it is a workable combination of practical and woo woo!

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[Connie]

I've been playing with a blend of "practical and woo woo" myself. The question in my mind is: when/if "shift happens," how do I know which is responsible, the practical or the woo woo? I'd like to know. Then I can tailor what I do to be more effective.

[Simple Guy]

Hi Connie,

Why "which" and not possibly both? Just presenting the question,
not looking for a reply. :)

[Connie]

Because... :)

I feel like I've been effective (in helping people via hypnosis, NLP, reiki, etc.) and if all I REALLY need to do is wave my hands in the air (or not) and observe something and/or think/intend something/expand my awareness and get the same results or better, I'm not going to bother with spending an hour or two of my life doing "unnecessary more."

The deal with Matrix Energetics (in my mind) is that you have to let go of any particular outcome or desire for any outcome, and that's part of what creates an outcome. I like to give people what they want (after we've formulated it into a well-formed outcome), and with M.E., I can't know that they'll get what they want. (Supposely, they get something!) I can know and see that they get what they want with my other modalities.

[Don]

Thanks for your posting, Doc. I find it quite fascinating.

Previously, we strongly disagreed about ME and quantum physics. I pointed out that as a paradigm it was valid, but not necessarily as an explanation of the reality. This seemed to upset you and you went on about how QP really did explain the functioning of ME.

Now, however, you say it's moving to "a physics and Jesus metaphor," whatever that means, and that the focus on Jesus is non-religious. Well, of course it is religious--and sectarian--but that's another issue. The point is that switching metaphors is merely that, a metaphor, just as I had suggested. It does not deny the underlying success or functionality, just the recognition that the map was not and is not the territory.

Curiously, you add that the underlying technique is "1) set intent (which is really not necessary) 2) trust and let go." I consider that a very viable methodology. In fact, I've been studying it since I was in high school and teaching it around the world for decades. I even wrote a book about it that has sold over 150,000 copies.

However, I use the traditional name for it: magick. Not the imagined magic of Harry Potter and other fictions popularized in the media (just as the public has an incorrect understanding of hypnosis due to incorrect concepts popularized through the media), but the real deal that has been practiced successfully for thousands of years.

Does real magick work? Yep. Just like ME works.

Oh, and there is a movement that tries to explain magick by way of quantum physics. There is also a movement that tries to explain magick by way of a non-religious Jesus metaphor.

In the mid-1970s, a book entitled Passages became very popular. It was about "Predictable Crises of Adult Life." The entire book was nothing but a well-known aspect of astrology known as the "Saturn Return." However, it never mentioned astrology or the Saturn Return. Instead, it focused on studies and personal reports. Renaming something often makes something more acceptable to the general public.

It would appear that ME is simply a new name for traditional magick. The same sort of thing that has been done for thousands of years. And it's making the creator/renamer lots of money.

More power to him, and continued success to you!

[Connie]

Ok, then! Time for me to go study some "traditional magick." :)

[Docresults]

Because... :)

I feel like I've been effective (in helping people via hypnosis, NLP, reiki, etc.) and if all I REALLY need to do is wave my hands in the air (or not) and observe something and/or think/intend something/expand my awareness and get the same results or better, I'm not going to bother with spending an hour or two of my life doing "unnecessary more."

The deal with Matrix Energetics (in my mind) is that you have to let go of any particular outcome or desire for any outcome, and that's part of what creates an outcome. I like to give people what they want (after we've formulated it into a well-formed outcome), and with M.E., I can't know that they'll get what they want. (Supposely, they get something!) I can know and see that they get what they want with my other modalities.

The deal with Matrix Energetics (in my mind) is that you have to let go of any particular outcome or desire for any outcome, and that's part of what creates an outcome.

Connie,

The idea is not so much letting go of a particular outcome to more of no charge around whether or not the outcome is accomplished. Or a weak vs a strong intention.

The difference is with hypnosis, NLP, Reiki there is a structure/process do a, then b, then c, then e, then results. And there was specific a,b,c,d's to do and it was sort of different for different things. It is us (you/me) applying the process that causes the results.

With ME if there is a structure it is soft intent, then relax and let go. The actual physical changing of (the issue) is _____ (Source, God, field) doing the actual physical work or what I call the heavy lifting.

The difference as far as I can tell is in hypnosis, NLP Reiki the strength is in the analog part of the process in ME the strength is in the digital part of it.

For me with ME I can know and see clients getting what they want and usually more.

For example a lady came in for a bad back pain. I 2-pt'ed and some other things (that I made up as I was going along in the field). She wobbled and laughed most of the time and I laughed with her. Within 20 minutes she had stopped laughing and felt fantastic with zero back pain.

The following Monday she called on her way to work and said her back was still fine but how should she explain what happened to all the girls at the office as they were curious about her going to the Feel Better Institute. I told her to tell them the truth. I went he did his thing, I laughed, the pain went away and I feel better. You could call it a miracle or anything you want but it works whatever it is.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[Docresults]

Ok, then! Time for me to go study some "traditional magick." :)


Don, Connie and ALL,

traditional magick is level 3.

Don the physics of Jesus is actually quantum physics, scalar waves and (I forget the third aspect) explaining the acts of Jesus.

A lot of it is influenced by Glenda Green's "Love Without End, Jesus Speaks".

Bartlett may be teaching ______ (traditional magick, quantum physics, scalar technology, Jesus miracles, etc.) the nice thing is that the skill is easily learnable, even to an extent from the book alone and fairly quickly.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[Poodle]

I was taught that Usui Reiki was actually a study in the healing techniques of Jesus but then went on to say that He moved to India and lived to the ripe old age of 130 I believe. Sorta wiped out that theory in my mind.

As you well know, it does, however, specifically state in the Bible that whatever He can do we also can do.

Every class of anything - hypnotherapy, NLP, ME, is totally different as the dynamics of each class change. Even though the same material is usually taught, different people ask different questions and different demonstrations so it is impossible to have two exactly the same.

I'm really happy this is workig out well for you and at long last you have found exactly what you wanted. Continue on with the great work. I highly suspect the addition of the "Jesus factor" is totally your "cup of tea"?

Stay well,
Anne :)

[Docresults]

I was taught that Usui Reiki was actually a study in the healing techniques of Jesus but then went on to say that He moved to India and lived to the ripe old age of 130 I believe. Sorta wiped out that theory in my mind.

As you well know, it does, however, specifically state in the Bible that whatever He can do we also can do.

Every class of anything - hypnotherapy, NLP, ME, is totally different as the dynamics of each class change. Even though the same material is usually taught, different people ask different questions and different demonstrations so it is impossible to have two exactly the same.

I'm really happy this is workig out well for you and at long last you have found exactly what you wanted. Continue on with the great work. I highly suspect the addition of the "Jesus factor" is totally your "cup of tea"?

Stay well,
Anne :)

Anne,

A couple of things...

This is not about finding exactly what I want. I use everything I can get my hands on as it is the client I'm focused on. I use NLP, ME ST, EP's, hypnosis, whatever is needed.

I can use the Jesus factor as I know the back ground and yet there is a lot of negative anchors for a lot of folks in Christianity.

I like the idea of tapping into the Morphic field of Jesus and that can be done with intention without actually bring up Christianity and religion.

The bringing up of the such a controversial field as most Christians can't agree with each other (There dog's, i.e. dogma, keep fighting.) can be useful some times and not so useful other times.

I mean take the miscommunication Don and I had over QP, where Don felt I use using QP as more than a metaphor and multiple that by a million. That is now bad the dogs can get using the Christian metaphor.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[Docresults]

Hello All,

Because of my relationship with Ms. Minette (needsadvice) I will not be discussing this or take part of this discussion on the list.

Thank you.

Doc Houston

[Needadvice]

Why, Mr Vetter? Why not talk about how you give choices? Offer respect of the family and friends?

[Soren K (existing)]

Hello All,

Because of my relationship with Ms. Minette (needsadvice) I will not be discussing this or take part of this discussion on the list.

Thank you.

Doc Houston

Hey Doc, Marina, there is something of a scandal in the way this is being presented, very intriguing development in this corner of cyberspace (hey, I should probably read more newspapers or something!) But I hope whatever the deal is between you guys, you find a peaceful resolution - I get the impression there is more than a little pain and resentment.

Take care folks.

JC

[Poodle]

it just goes to show "ya can't be everything to EVERYBODY" but (and I do love that word", you are EVERYTHING TO US.)

Mr. Vetter, indeed or as I wrote in a previous post "my sweet behind".

If I personally did not believe in your skills I certainly would not recommend people to go to you. ;)

[Jack]

Whoosh!

There goes another one!:)

I can absolutely agree with Doc in one aspect namely that a good therapist uses whatever comes to hand, If it is ME, Jesus or a smoked kipper then more power to us all.

Jack

[Terry]

"IF YOU HAVE FAITH, these things I do, you also can do"! I note that those who support ME, including Jesus ME or whatever, seem to feel that the success is spotty, but they believe that something happens of value to the client regardless. I tend not to believe this, but perhaps I can offer some insight into those failures in the explaining of the words I quoted in caps.

In the Lords prayer, we pray in what many call "the perfect prayer", forgive us our trespasses, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO HAVE TRESPASSED AGAINST US.... In non religious terms, we are admitting that as long as we harbour negative feelings within, we cannot receive change without.... My beliefs are of course my own, and not gospel, hence I tend not to push them beyond standing up for them when they are challenged, but in this case an explanation that makes sense is offered for your consideration.
The person who believes in God, and not nescessarily in Religion, can see the point of my argument from the viewpoint of both God, and Successful therapy where negative beliefs are overcome, and change for the better results.

My suggestion Doc, ensure that the client is prepared properly before you get to work, and if you get better results, these speak for themselves. For whatever reason, everybody believed in Jesus, so he got perfect results. Not all believe you are above humanity, so you must ensure they follow the same path exactly, and have perfect faith based on forgiveness of others. In my own case, I use The Trinity as my base, and call it Faith Healing right up front, but then I am not doing it as a business, and nobody is forced to accept my beliefs or my ministrations...:)

In closing, I hope that needsadvice will, if she reads this, take it to heart and let the poison be removed from her body where it harms nobody but her regardless of where faut lies....