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Ruth2
11-04-2008, 02:17 PM
Hi All! I've got a question concerning Will and Intent in regards to health Without sounding too off-the-wall here, how dangerous is it health-wise if one has a tendency to fly into a rage and shout vile deprecations concerning one's health, i.e. "I HATE you; I hope you suffer and die; I hope you rot ..." Now, I'm not talking about the normal "It's bad for your blood pressure" kind of stuff; what I'm talking about is the danger from cursing(?) one's self into poor health. I'm thinking along more esoteric lines, the danger of infusing such words with so much energy, that kind of thing.
If I'm made a total mishmash here, please accept my apology. Thanks for any replies that may come; I'll be glad to respond once I'm off probation. (Counting the days....)
Ruth2
Everything contains energy. When you say negative things to someone then what you are doing is programming them. If their subconscious is strong then you will have no effect. If they are vulnerable or in a trance then it is likely that you will have a negative effect.
If you speak to yourself in the same way then you will get the same results.
Others will comment on the esoteric. No mish-mash.:)
Jack
Connie
11-05-2008, 01:00 AM
What I'm particularly sensitized to is "organ language." Where you say something that negatively impacts your own health and body. I don't do that. (Anymore.) "You make me sick." "He's a pain in the neck." "I can't stand it." "She makes me so mad I can't see straight."
What are you saying to yourself? What negative emotions are you allowing to run rampant in your body? Hate is very destructive--to you! On all levels, including health. Hypnosis would help you release that and find something better to feel.
Merlin
11-05-2008, 10:28 AM
It covers a wide range.
*most* of the time, or minds ignore such things.
If you've developed the skill, teaching your mind to 'manifest', then it can be very serious.
Poodle
11-05-2008, 06:31 PM
that "science" is now able to photograph "hate" in the brain as well as "love". Seems as if I read they come what science calls "naturally" just as our flight or fight instinct. I'm not really sure I can swallow that. Hate is an ugly thing and no one should hate another for any reason as the hate hurts the one that has the feelings and not the person being hated.
It is possible to program a mind negatively but it takes years and years of repetition as in my case I always said I was "as graceful as an ox". Finally my mind believed it so accidents started happening every year or more. After I learned NLP I now say I am as graceful as a ballet dancer and have not had accident one. ;)
Be well,
Pood
Ruth2
11-07-2008, 04:36 PM
Thanks for the replies.
I haven't taught my mind to manifest but, working on the premise that a broken watch is still right twice a day, I'd hate to hit on the right combination of emotion and words that would cause something to happen-- and have it come about. (Sounds like magical thinking, doesn't it..)
What am I saying? Mostly things like "I hope you suffer,I hope you burn in hell, you (insert string of choice anglo saxon profanities here).." et al. I wouldn't call it hate. "Hate" to me is extreme indifference.. cold. This is hot and definitely not indifferent.
Be that as it may, how best can I turn the negative energy into positive energy?
Thanks for any input you may give.
Ruth2
Poodle
11-07-2008, 07:28 PM
Confront what they are saying. This is where NLP comes in so fantastically, "You're going to rot in hell". Ruth2: Hmmm. Interesting belief. Out of total curiosity what makes you believe that and how exactly do you know there is a hell. Have you really been there. Eeeuuuggghhh!! Please tell me all about your trip there and back. Now in Judiasm there is no hell for one to go to. All people's light simply grows darker with each and every sin. Yours is an interesting belief but certainly one I would never want to adopt it.
What people are saying are only their beliefs and they have no reality since they are beliefs. In other words, you turn it back to them - calmly, sweetly and nicely.
Maybe you'll remember when you were a little kid and heard "Sticks and stones can break by bones but words can never hurt me." It's very true if you are good at NLP. Eventually you even get to learn "state management" where no one can bug you in the least.
Be well,
Pood
Connie
11-07-2008, 11:42 PM
Pood, I think she's saying that SHE uses the language quoted...not that it's directed at her.
Poodle
11-08-2008, 12:33 AM
If what Connie wrote is correct and you are saying these things to yourself...STOP. You don't talk to other people like that (hopefully) so why would you talk like that to yourself. If you start to say something negative about yourself...just say loudly to yourself if alone or silently to yourself if not...SHUT UP!! Your mind will eventually get the idea that such is not allowed. You may find another post wherein we discussed changing the sound of that "voice" to something extremely sexy or very, very comical, as in Donald Duck. A NLPer can make very quick work of negative self-talk.
Be well,
Pood
Ruth2
11-08-2008, 09:44 AM
Hi Poodle. Connie's right; I'm the one doing that talking to myself. Gotta admit I had a chuckle over the Donald Duck voice-- I sound like that on a bad sinus day anyway... Anyway that's why i was concerned-- am I programming myself to reap some nasty stuff down the road by what I say to myself when I get in one of these rages.
The anger thing is such a flash that it's hard to stop when it hits. I wonder if saying gobbledygook would do the same thing...
Thanks all, you've given me some ideas to work with.
Ruth2
Terry
11-08-2008, 09:31 PM
Nobody exept a complete idiot can get mad, say gobbledeegook, and stay mad, it is a word you smile at, and when you smile you can;t stay mad...
However, on a serious note, you need to find an explanation for the flash bouts of anger. I have a temper, and sometimes it comes to the surface wnen I see someone willing to stay stupid, and ask others to "do it for them". I get angry because I know they are capable of more, and I always demand the best from others, as I do of myself. Therefor, I understand the cause and can control it easily, and know I am not insulting the person I address, but demanding what I know they are capable of if they get off their lazy stump....:) You need to do just that, and find the answer before you do youself damage beyond recovery.....
By the way, say it out loud no matter where you are or whom you are with. If an explanation is needed, say it replaces aba ca dabra, and is for changing you into a fairy......
Ruth2
11-09-2008, 09:52 AM
Hi Terry. Thanks for the reply.
Fairy, eh? I have a friend who already thinks I'm half-elven anyway...
Part of the problem is medical and I'm working on that with my doctor, part is a hereditary tendency, and part is .... good question. Bad programming probably-- "I must be perfect to justify my existence..." kind of thing, and of course that's when I slam my finger in the kitchen drawer. But I'm working on it (not slamming my finger but changing the behavior.)
As far as asking someone to do it for me? No thanks. I may ask to be pointed in the right direction to find the resources I need, but how am I to learn if someone else does it for me? And if I don't learn it myself then it's never really mine.
Ruth2
Ruth2,
Why would anyone talk to themselves like that?
Seriously?
Say for instance, you talked to your best friend like that, or your lover ...
How long do you suppose the relationship would be healthy?
It is a habit.
And it is a good habit, that has gone south.
I like talking to myself.
Correction, I LOVE talking to myself.
My favorite thing to say to myself is, "I love how my mind works!"
And I say it with feeling. REAL feeling.
See talking to yourself is a really good habit, one to be encouraged, at every opportunity.
But it must be sincere, because you cannot fool yourself.
And if you want to promote a good relationship with your-self (unconscious), you might consider changing what you say to yourself.
I know others have, and will suggest, that you make negative commentary into cartoon voices. And that works well, especially when the voices you 'hear' talking to you, are those of other people. People who were or are 'authority' figures. People like your parents, or teachers who might have said really damaging things like, "You'll never amount to anything." and such rot as that.
BUT
BUT
BIG BERTHA BUT!
When you talk to yourself, as yourself talking to you ...
Why would you talk as if you were berating some indentured servant?
How about fostering the habit of discovering good things you do and commenting honestly about that?
Like when you rememeber someones name. Do you realize how amazing that actually is in the scheme of things?
Or when you wake up at the time you intended before the alarm clock goes off?
Or when a creative idea comes ...
It doesnt have to be about a big thing.
Nor does it have to be some elaborate something.
Just an honest, "Wow I'm better than I thought."
And when you do screw up.
Dont duck it, or dodge it ,or sugar coat it, because you know instantly, when you are being disnigenuious with yourself.
And no one trusts a liar.
"Well I f**ked that one up. And here is where I missed it. I'll do my best to do better next time and I'm certainly smart enough that I can avoid that same mistake again."
Try that, and notice, just after a very little bit, you have changed the way you feel about yourself, and how your 'life' seems to go more and more smoothly. That is because you will be working more in harmony with yourself and you can enjoy the benifit of having all those nice things said about yourself and not having tov worry about whether or not you are doing some sort of cosmic damage to yourself.
cheers,
skip
Poodle
11-09-2008, 10:51 AM
What you are referring to is most probably what we refer to as "imprints". NLP has super cool ways to "re-imprint".
From what I know there has only been one perfect person in this world. The remainder of us fall short so do be nice to yourself.
This is something I would not work on with self, but would make for a fantastic class demo or practice for another student.
Be well,
Pood
Connie
11-09-2008, 11:13 AM
Skip, I love how your minds works, too. Can I clone it? :)
Ruth2
11-09-2008, 01:21 PM
Hey Skip and Poodle (and Connie too). Thanks for replying.
Poodle-- Imprints. Hmmm.... okay. I can work on that. I wonder where it comes from, though...
Skip-- Here's the rub: Nice self talk when I do it to myself always sounds like a crock of you-know-what. It drips with insincerity, at least to my ears. It feels incongruent. On the other hand, the angry hate-filled voice sounds perfectly congruent-- and when I do it I feel more congruent as well.
What I need to do is to learn how to negate these rage-filled words so they don't turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy. I think hypnosis and NLP could be most helpful in this situation.
Thanks for all the advice you all have given me.
Ruth2
Connie
11-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Hey, I know you're in your 'self-help' mode, but really, a qualified hypnotherapist or NLPer could help you with this instantly. Go find one. That's called helping yourself. You're still "doing it," all of this is coming from within you. The problem, and the solution(s). Someone with experience could help you grab hold of what you need and bring it where you need it, and of course you'd be learning. Both the process, and what transformation feels like from the inside out.
Ruth2
11-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Hi Connie. Thanks for the input. Yes, I'm in self-help mode but I think with this I need a good hypnoNLPer. Thus I'm looking for a good hypnotist/NLPer that isn't a psychologist. (My former psychologist is the one who recommended my former hypnotherapist...)
Wish me luck on finding the right person.
Ruth2
Poodle
11-09-2008, 07:59 PM
A couple of questions please. Are you saying these vile things to yourself outloud or silently in your mind?
Wish you luck? -- No -- do your due dilligence lady in finding the qualified person. Actually Skip and Docresults do phone work. They are expensive and they do not accept just anybody. I highly suspect either of them could set you straight with great ease. It would be worth asking IMHO. It also seems as if you can now send PM's since it no longer says "Probationary". Kewl! You have made it to a full member of this awesome place.
Be well,
Pood :)
Ruth2
11-09-2008, 09:01 PM
Thanks Poodle for the welcome and the encouragement! Yep, no longer a probationer. Mega kewl!
Don't worry, I plan to do my due diligence most diligently. As for Skip and Docresults, I would be honored if either one of them would "set me straight" but I realize I'm still very much an unknown quantity here. I'd probably still be in the "anybody" category at this point...
Thanks so much again, everyone, for all the replies; I really appreciate it.
Ruth2
Poodle
11-10-2008, 11:26 AM
You will never know unless you ask! Anybody just happens to be one of NLPers favorite books--it's full name is "The Adventures of Anybody". I tried to make a silk purse out of a cow's ear with it. LOL!! :)
Ruth2
11-10-2008, 11:43 AM
Ack, Poodle, I realized I didn't answer your other question!!! You asked if I said these things to myself out loud or in my mind. Definitely out loud, very much so. Beratingly so. Fire-breathing even...
You're right-- I'll never know unless I ask. All I have to do now is screw my courage up to do so.
Thanks for replying!
Ruth2
"Skip-- Here's the rub: Nice self talk when I do it to myself always sounds like a crock of you-know-what. It drips with insincerity, at least to my ears. It feels incongruent. On the other hand, the angry hate-filled voice sounds perfectly congruent-- and when I do it I feel more congruent as well."
Now Ruth2 Im not talking about 'nice' self talk.
Bleaaach!
WTF is it with the 'nice' pablum?
I dont want 'nice'. In my best nasal lispy whine, "Oh yes I am pretty good at very limited things."
My subconscious would rebel at that sort of turpid codswallop too.
IT AINT STUPID !
And that means you!
As in, "You aint stupid, because you see right thru that **** too."
Yes I know.
AND
It IS a hell of a habit isnt it?
Think about how incredible it is ... to be able to convince yourself ... that only negative commentary ... about yourself ... is genuine. And anything positive ... is not credible.
Thats pretty frickin awsome isnt it?
Could you think of anyone who would be able to accomplish that with you?
Other than your(awsome)self of course. ;)
Lets see you find a way to demean your way out of that one. :)
I know exactly how you feel.
It does feel strange and disingeniuous, at first.
And it is strange ... because you dont do it very often.
And it does feel disingenuous ... because you are so used to feeling negatively about yourself.
And honestly feeling good about yourself is soooo 'different'.
BUT
It is still just a habit.
AND
If what you choose to complement yourself about is REAL and WORTHY of the level of praise you give it, and if you offer the praise simply and honestly, it wont take long before you are able to relax, and admit that, "Yup in that situation, I AM pretty good."
Even if you have to resort to admitting to yourself that, "I am damn good at demeaning myself! I'll bet that if I applied myself even just a little bit I could be damn good at complementing myself appropriately too."
I urge you to give it a try.
It will cost you nothing other than some small persistance.
Or you can come to me, and Ill charge you some really big bucks for the same, and pattern interrupt you, so will be more automatic, and you will value it more.
cheers,
skip
Ruth2
11-13-2008, 03:05 PM
LOL, Skip! You're a hoot!
Yep, even I can see that I'm very good at demeaning myself. Heck, (cue Bond music) nobody does it better. Of course, no one knows me like I do...
There are some things which I'm fairly good at, although none of them have anything to do with my general klutziness, which is what usually sets off my screaming meemies. For example, I can go absolutely ballistic over a recalcitrant pickle jar lid. Busting a fingernail because I didn't quite clear the kitchen counter. Tripping over my own two feet for no reason at all... However I have never gotten upset with myself because I couldn't do calculus. That just never entered into the equation (pun intended) since I am woeful at any math beyond figuring tips.
So how long should I work on complimenting myself, or at least giving myself verbal pats on the head for what I can do well (or at least competently), before I throw in the towel and contact you?
Thanks for replying!
Ruth2
Terry
11-13-2008, 04:33 PM
Skip asked that you be two things, Honest, and Selective, and if this is beyond you the first time, seek his help. I'm serious, anyone who can;t be honest with themselves, and admit the facts along with the accompanying feelings is doomed to live like that without external intervention...
Every day I turn on my computer, and see my wifes lovely face. Now I know that anyone lucky enough to have shared fifty years with that lady is the luckyest person alive. Every day therefore, I give thanks to God who made me, and who gave me the brains and the drive to become what I am, and do the things I can do, and know I am just as He intended me to be.
Now that is for ME, others have different reasons for giving thanks. Some even are grateful for one more day of life when they have recovered from Cancer and were near death. How about you? Is your health good? Are you physically fit to work and look after yourself? Many cannot do this because of infirmity or lack of function. After eighty years of life, I still function well in spite of my daughter wanting to buy me a chair for Christmas that moves me to a standing position in case I am too infirm to get out of an ordinary chair one day. In all honesty, your post makes me wonder at human nature. We have choices to make, and all too often make the wrong ones in spite of knowing the facts....
"I complained and complained that I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet"..... Go find a footless man. Donate time to help others who are in dire need of help.
Ruth2
11-13-2008, 05:31 PM
Hello Terry. Thanks for replying.
Can I find things about myself that are honestly worthy of a pat on the back, simple and to the point? Yes. But there's a difference between thanking God for what He's bestowed upon me and recognizing that something within me is worthy of a compliment. Not a day goes by that I don't thank God for something. And while I can find things about myself that I'd consider accomplishments that would be good to recognize, within a few seconds of finding some good in me, given provocation I can fly off the handle at myself by the most idiotic irrational thing. My reaction is way out of proportion to what's happened; it is incongruent; it doesn't make sense. If I slam my finger in a drawer, it would be understandable if I hopped up and down and said a few pithy phrases. It doesn't make sense to fly into a rage at myself, a rage that lasts several minutes and entails curses at the top of my lungs. Blessing and cursing shouldn't flow from the same fountain, so... what's going on?
I don't know why my post would make you wonder at human nature-- was it in asking how long I should practice complimenting myself before I called Skip? I was referring to his last statement; as far as going to see him, since he lives quite a ways away and I probably don't have big enough bucks for his fee, I thought I was merely matching the light humor I read in his sentence.
You seem to be understanding what I'm doing is complaining. If that is the same as "poor mouthing" myself, then I have miscommunicated what is going on. I have much to be thankful for-- and I express that thanks on a regular basis. My health isn't what it used to be but it's better than it was a few years ago and I have every expectation that it will continue to improve, unless I find some way to sabotage it by the words I speak to myself whan I fly into a rage. Which is why I asked what I did in the original post
Thanks again for your post.
Ruth2
"So how long should I work on complimenting myself, or at least giving myself verbal pats on the head for what I can do well (or at least competently), before I throw in the towel and contact you?"
For the rest of your life? ...
Oh ... before you contact me.
You decide.
Again, it is just a habit.
And while the effects may be profound ...
It is no more difficult to fix, than learning to brush your teeth twice a day.
And a lot more fun too.
Because as you do it, and get more and more into the habit ...
You find more and more things about yourself to like and honestly complement.
And that feels good.
Damn good!
Better and better.
See, your brain is designed to discern (find) what you focus on.
If it is quarters, then you will find quarters everywhere.
If it is good stuff, then you will percieve good stuff everywhere, even within yourself.
If it is ****ty stuff, you will find that too.
But the really cool thing is that your mind will delete what doesnt fit what you are focusing on.
Focus on the good stuff it doesnt discern the bad stuff.
Focus on the bad stuff it doesnt discern the good stuff.
See contrary to popular opinion, your mind doesnt really care what it focuses on, it just wants a direction.
It is REALLY a self fulfilling prophesy... courtesy of our ability to distort, delete, and generalize.
Some people say it takes 14 repetitions to make a habit.
I dont know about that.
What I do know is that it will take some conscious effort, because you arent accustomed to it yet.
But the more you do it, the more things you will begin to notice, that you can honestly complement yourself on, and the more comfortable and congruent it will feel.
And the more you complement yourself, the smoother it will become to both notice and express honest, sincere, appropriate complements ...
AND
The fewer and fewer times you will have occasion to notice and express, anything negative about yourself.
Now thats not because you have become perfect, or anything like that.
It is just because you have reoriented what you are paying attention to.
And THAT makes all the difference in how you feel about yourself, and the world in general.
Do this.
Your life will change for the better, forever.
Then come see me for some really cool stuff. ;)
cheers,
skip
Terry
11-14-2008, 12:29 AM
When someone asks for our help online, all we have on which to base advice is what they post, usually very little compared to what we would find out in a face to face interview.
It is possible, after reading you posts to date, that we are all barking up the wrong tree and you are suffering from a mental illness which forces you to scream out curses without any rhyme or reason. If this be so, you need local help and asap....I would hope that you can tell the difference between berating yourself for valid reason, and doing so without cause, but I cannot be sure of that, non of us can. You do say you have been ill and are recovering, so who knows? I gave it my shot, and elicited a reply that helped illuminate the problem somewhat, but I still am not certain of what it is you need.... We might just be muddying the waters for a very sick person. I preffer not to take such a chance, see a doctor and do it soon....
Ruth2
11-14-2008, 09:21 AM
Hello Terry and Skip-- thanks for answering.
Terry: Thank you for your reasoned reply. I know the rages are an overblown reaction. I'm pretty sure I know why I react that way, and as to why now, it's probably because after being ill and recovering over the last three years, I'm frazzled. It's a childhood pattern that I've reverted to. And yes, I have explored this with a mental health care professional.
However my original query here was: am I doing myself any damage esoterically by all this rage filled cursing at myself? (Which is why I posted this in the esoteric and energy work forum.) If I may, let me rephrase the question: am I doing myself any damage on the energetic level, the spiritual level, the auric level, by cursing myself whilst in one of these rages? Am I in danger of manifesting these things that I speak with such energy and fleeting intent? Merlin touched on it briefly in her first (and maybe only) answer to me, that if indeed I had taught my mind to manifest itself, then I was in danger. I'm still not sure if I need to unravel what I've said or if creating a new positive habit will suffice
Skip-- Only 14 times? Hmmm. I'll work on it from now until the New Year. That should give me enough time to set the habit in place; by that time hopefully it'll be on its way to becoming second nature.
I want to thank both of you for your suggestions and advice here. I appreciate it.
Ruth2
However my original query here was: am I doing myself any damage esoterically by all this rage filled cursing at myself? (Which is why I posted this in the esoteric and energy work forum.) If I may, let me rephrase the question: am I doing myself any damage on the energetic level, the spiritual level, the auric level, by cursing myself whilst in one of these rages? Am I in danger of manifesting these things that I speak with such energy and fleeting intent?
Ruth2
Since we're not you, there's no way to know.
But you know, some people consider the unconscious mind to be like a small child, eagerly wanting to please, easily accepting commands, and very literal in what it accepts.
If this is true, what would be the effect on the growth and mental and spiritual development if someone he or she deeply loved and wanted to please was cursing him or her in a rage?
Respectfully, I think you know the answer.
You know, often, when we ask a question, we do so already knowing the answer and simply wanting verification. If this is the case, and you already know the answer, you don't really need additional verification, do you?
But for a moment, look at your question another way. Your cursing and rage will have a strong effect on you, no effect on you, or something in between. Ask yourself, "What would be the effects of my raging and cursing?" Are you manifesting those effects to no degree, to a high degree, or somewhere in between? So you see, you can really answer this question yourself, can't you?
In fact, for a moment, let's look at your question in still another way. Instead of asking "What would the effects be" and looking at the results, let me ask you this: If you think for a moment of what the effects might be, do you really want to experience those effects?
Just take a moment and ask yourself that last question. If the answer is "Yes, I want to experience the effects of my raging and cursing," then go right ahead and rage and curse. But if you don't want to experience those effects, whatever you think they might be, wouldn't it be a great idea not to rage and curse, don't you think?
And for the biggest question of all: If you don't want to experience whatever you think the effects of raging and cursing might be, what are you going to do about it?
Think about it? Think about it!
Ruth2,
"However my original query here was: am I doing myself any damage esoterically by all this rage filled cursing at myself? (Which is why I posted this in the esoteric and energy work forum.) If I may, let me rephrase the question: am I doing myself any damage on the energetic level, the spiritual level, the auric level, by cursing myself whilst in one of these rages? Am I in danger of manifesting these things that I speak with such energy and fleeting intent? Merlin touched on it briefly in her first (and maybe only) answer to me, that if indeed I had taught my mind to manifest itself, then I was in danger. I'm still not sure if I need to unravel what I've said or if creating a new positive habit will suffice"
Some people ay, "The only stupid question, is the one unasked."
I disagree.
Think for a moment about what you are asking.
I dont know what you mean by 'esoteric', but isnt it obvious, to you, that you are damaging yourself?
Does it matter at what level? Or on how many levels?
If you are hurting yourself, and you are ... and you can stop hurting yourself, and you can ...
Well duh!
I am going to 'gently' suggest that you are focused on the wrong thing again.
What would happen if ...
Instead of focusing on how and how much and at what level you are damaging yourself ...
What would happen if you began to focus on how to do something that not just stops the damage, but begins to heal it?
"Look at that. Thats a lot of blood comming out. Hum I wonder how much blood is being lost. Lets measure it. Well how do you want to measure it? We could measure the hole and the flow rate, and the time and calculate the amount that way. Or we could collect up all that blood in a container and see how much it is. Wonder if we ought to put some back in, cause it looks like an awful lot continuing to come out. I wonder if it is arterial blood or veinous blood because there is a difference you know. If we could calculate how much is lost, and the flow rate, then we could determine how much is left. Couldnt we ... "
STOP THE HEMORRHAGING!
Where is the focus Ruth?
"Am I doing esoteric damage to myself?" Even as you continue to do it?
And you know you are, you just dont know the extent. But instead of measuring the extent ...
What do you WANT to do instead?
skip
Ruth2
11-14-2008, 12:36 PM
Hello Don and Skip. Thanks for replying. You are both right.
I've already begun changing what I say to myself. It's not easy, esp. when my temper flares but I'm working on it.
Skip: As far as the "Well, look at that. All that blood. I wonder why..." Yep. That's me to a T. Doesn't mean I'm not stanching the blood as I wonder why, but yeah, that's me.
Don: I can't tell to what degree I'm manifesting the damage. I'm concerned that once I get to the point of seeing the damage, I'll be too far down the road to do anything about it, at least without incurring a world of hurt.
The literal-ness of the unconscious mind is a good point. I need to keep remembering that for a while. It'll help me craft what I say.
Skip: What do I want to do? Reverse the damage. Lose the anger. Or to put it another way-- be healthy. Gain peace. And I'm working on that.
Thanks again for your replies.
Ruth2
Ruth,
"Skip: What do I want to do? Reverse the damage. Lose the anger. Or to put it another way-- be healthy. Gain peace. And I'm working on that."
OK
Look at what you just said.
What are you still focused on?
If we manifest what we place energy into ...Why are damage and anger even mentioned? Do you want to continue to put energy into those areas?
Forget telling me about what you dont want.
So what do you want to do?
"I want to be happy, healthy, gain peace, and ..."
It is a habit Ruth, just a habit.
cheers,
skip
Connie
11-14-2008, 02:39 PM
Too much thinking and spinning and talk and not enough action. Go find your hypnotherapist/Nelper now.
Ruth2
11-14-2008, 03:58 PM
Hey Connie. Thanks for replying.
Will do.
Ruth2
Don: I can't tell to what degree I'm manifesting the damage. I'm concerned that once I get to the point of seeing the damage, I'll be too far down the road to do anything about it, at least without incurring a world of hurt.
I was in my car when it was hit from behind. Luckily, it was a minor "fender bender." I thought there wasn't too much damage.
But after a time I started to notice that the car was driving "funny." Eventually, I had to go to a specialist who quickly discovered the problem (a broken bolt) and new exactly how to fix it.
He said, however, that if I had waited much longer, there could have been serious damage.
Right now, you're like I was, doing the best at interpreting things with the knowledge and skills you have.
Are you going to wait until the car breaks down or will you go to a specialist who can fix it before there is major damage?
Ruth2
11-15-2008, 09:43 AM
Hello Don. I'm planning on getting the bolt fixed asap.
Thanks for replying.
Ruth2
Excellent. And, if you will, let me let you in on a fabulous secret:
That "bolt" isn't broken! Not at all. It's simply doing the best it possibly can with its current abilities and skills under the current situation. Some outsiders may call that "broken," but I think it's perfect, just as it is, for what it's doing.
That means the bolt can't be "fixed." How can you "fix" something that isn't broken? However, if the bolt isn't doing what we need it to do, and if you're aware that it's not doing what you need it to do, then you can sometimes get additional information to bring out the strength and inner abilities of that bolt, ones you never knew it had!
And that means all of the bolts can work together in harmony to move the "car" for many decades to come.
Cool, huh?
I knew you'd think so. :)
Ruth2
11-16-2008, 10:02 AM
Hi Don. What you've said here reminds me of something a psychologist I saw years back said to me-- I was mentally healthy and my reactions to things that happened to me were perfectly normal, given what I had lived through. The problem was that I was reacting to the present with coping mechanisms I had learned in the past, but they weren't effective for present day life. The bolt isn't broken but it might need tweaking now.
Thanks for posting!
Ruth2