Does this all work?

[Rems]

Well, in my first 1/2 hour looking into Internet about NLP and Hypnosis I found some companies, which can make your boobs biger and make you eat less, quit smoking, quit drinking, be a good person etc.
This all is done for money of course.

There are some things I would like to improve in myself, like be more motevated, less agressive etc. Is this all possible through hypnosis or is this just rubbish?

Because it is difficult to believe that these problems are so easy to solve by just letting to hypnotise You for some hour.

[Terry]

"Does it work"? Of course not stupid, now go away and leave us to con the rest of our readership will you?
After all, I got away with it for twenty one years, without spending a lick on advertising, just word of mouth. Even today, after over fifteen years of retirement, I still get people calling me, money in hand begging for help....... Not that it works, but if feels good to give me money, and they feel so much better once they have done it.....
Now I suppose, it is time to reveal the secret of our success boys and girls, so here goes.....
I talk to people daily, as do we all, and never forget to mention that I practise hypnosis. They of course want to know more, and ask questions, and by the time I have finished talking, they are so facinated, that they just have to try it for themselves, or con a friend into trying it so they can benifit indirectly from that friend's experience. Now I am very lucky, I have a team of people standing by, so I can go on vacation, and leave my team to cope with the thousands of people I con, while I enjoy a vacation in some warm place I haven;t been to before......
The end result is that people feel happier for having met me and had this conversation, and I end up with money to burn.....Well worth the cost of my initial outlay for training, and time spent in practise, even though it did cost me thousands of dollars and hours to get there.
Now, there you go, no more secrets to find, and all are lining up to join us. Trouble is, most of them will fail because they are too lazy to put in the time to practise, but then, the world is full of suckers, or so I am told by PT Barnum, so have at it boys and girls, and make the bucks while you can (EG)

[TaffyE]

Very drole Terry, :)

Guest - what he is really saying is "yes it does work", especially if you can find someone who has experience

[Don]

Greetings.

I wouldn't be as harsh as Terry (that has a familiar sound!) and I'd like to focus on your question in a different light.

You asked if this "all" works. The truth is, when it comes to people, nothing "all" works. For some people something as universal as aspirin or Tylenol not only don't work, but can cause severe problems and is responsible for numerous deaths every year.

In spite of the lack of effect in some people, negative side effects, and deaths, aspirin and Tylenol are advertised every day on TV, radio, and print media. So the truth is, while the claims are generally accurate, they may not work for you.

While hypnosis does not have the dangerous or deadly side effects of aspirin and Tylenol, the question is, does it always work? The answer is that just as both a surgeon and patient need to be prepared for surgery, so, too, does a person and a hypnotherapist need to be prepared for a hypnotherapeutic session.

The answer to your question, then, is that if a hypnotherapist is appropriately trained, does an interview with a client, determines that the client is ready for hypnotherapy and knows how to give an appropriate treatment for the particular client, the work can be spectacularly successful.

What about all the tapes, videos and CDs? In some instances, especially when the person on the recording is very good and the person who bought them is ready, and the particular therapy on the recording meets the needs of the client, they can be effective. However, with all those "ifs," you can seen that success is "iffy" at best.

Besides, if you have a serious problem (smoking, weight, intense fears, etc.) and are trying to solve it by spending twenty bucks, you're telling yourself that you're almost worthless. Every time you listen to or watch such a recording you are repeating that you are worthless, and if you don't immediately succeed you are programming failure.

I know that there are people on this board who sell "generic," one-recording-fits-all recordings and disagree with me on this, and I would invite them to respond to this. Then it will be up to you to decide.

To be more specific concerning your questions, however, you wrote that you saw the claims that hypnosis could:

"your boobs biger and make you eat less, quit smoking, quit drinking, be a good person etc."

There is some anecdotal scientific evidence that proper treatment in some cases have increased the size of women's breasts. However, to the best of my knowledge, there have not been any double-blind tests supporting this. So to the best of my knowledge it gets a qualified "maybe."

Hypnosis cannot "make" you do anything. However, hypnosis can give you the tools to change your behavior quickly and permanently.

A hypnotherapist who is well trained can help you develop the tools to lose weight, achieve a goal and keep it.

A hypnotherapist who is well trained can help a person to stop smoking and have no withdrawals or negative symptoms in one session.

A trained hypnotherapist can help a person to stop drinking, but it may take several sessions because there are lots of internal issues that need to be considered. As a result, many hypnotherapists do not take on this type of client. Perhaps the most famous hypnotherapist of modern times, Dr. Milton Erickson, didn't like to work with alcoholics (he thought A.A. did okay), but he did document his work getting people to no longer require alcohol. So the answer is once again a qualified "maybe" for helping people get off alcohol.

I'm not sure what you mean by getting someone to be a "good person." Everyone might have a different definition of what that means. However hypnotherapy can absolutely help people change unwanted behavior patterns and adopt desired behaviors quickly and easily.


You also wrote:
"This all is done for money of course."

You seem to have a rather negative attitude about this. But if your car is broken you pay for a mechanic. If you are ill you pay a doctor. If you are out of shape you pay for a gym and/or a personal trainer.

Don't you think paying someone who has trained for years to learn how to help you live longer by losing weight, stop smoking, or changing your behavior in order to become the person you'd like to be is worth money? Don't you think you're worth the money?

I think you are. And if you're really ready to make a change in your life, I would suggest you consider finding a certified hypnotherapist in your area.

[Merlin]

Hi Rems,

>which can make your boobs biger and make you eat less, quit smoking, quit drinking, be a good person etc.

Of course all this is done for money. We practitioners need to eat too.
Have you compared the 'boob enlargement' to the surgical methods? The MDs charge up to $10,000 and you need repeat surgery every few years!

Truth is, one in three women are unhappy with their breasts. It's a big market.
Breast size affects self esteem. It effects how clothing fits. Women of size larger than a D or smaller than a C are often made fun of. It's not fun!

Does this stuff actually work?
Yes, it does. There have been medical studies for weight, smoking, even breast changes.

Can hypnosis help with your desired goals?
Yes.
Can it meet all of your desires and expectations?
That depends.
It's your own mind. We have no idea how your own mind will limit you.

As for taking one hour or four, or even more, is also dependant on you, as well as the hypnotist's skill.

[Annie]

Hi Rems,

You said : " Well, in my first 1/2 hour looking into Internet about NLP and Hypnosis I found some companies, which can make your boobs bigger and make you eat less, quit smoking, quit drinking, be a good person etc.
This all is done for money of course. "

Well, let's compare methods -
1. for a "Driniking problem" : a person can, after getting diagnosed as an Alcoholic by a Medical doctor, join "A.A." where they are further urged to accept having "a Life-time disease".
&/or
such a person can, after getting diagnosed as an Alcoholic by a Medical doctor, avail themselves of a Teacher who can guide them not only in how to free themselves of this habit, but enjoy their life in wonderful new ways ...

Of these Services "done for money of course", which sounds more desirable ?

2. to "Quit smoking" : a person can, after trying Will-power, try all the Medical gimmicks like Nicotine patches etc.
&/or
such a person can, after trying the above, avail themselves of a Teacher who can guide them not only in how to free themselves of this habit, but enjoy their life in wonderful new ways ...

Of these Services "done for money of course", which sounds more desirable ?

3. for "breast challenges" : a woman can spend upwards of $9,000 for a Surgeon to insert "implants" whose safety/function continues being challenged, leaving the Center in painful sutures, bruising her anatomy, leaving her scarred ... AND needing this, very expensive in numerous ways, trip repeated every so many years.
&/or
such women can avail themselves of a Teacher who can, not only painlessly, guide them in joyfully controling your physical appearance using only the power of your mind, thus enhancing your self esteem.

Of these Services "done for money of course", which sounds more desirable ?

And yes, there having been done "medical studies" for smoking, etc. and even breast changes : Certainly ! - this stuff actually works. Some people use "hypnosis" . And
in our school, we actually teach people how to get specific results they want by playing games !


You said : " There are some things I would like to improve in myself, like be more motivated, less agressive etc. "

You can achieve much much greater than these, using only the power of your own mind. And yes - *you :)* can be taught how. And for certain specific skills you can be taught, once you've learned them, they are yours for *life*. Isn't that wonderful ! :D


You said : " it is difficult to believe that these problems are so easy to solve by just letting to hypnotise You for some hour. "

In our school, we want no secrets. And we inform each of our students that " Your success in any of our (currently 11 being offered) classes is directly related to student participation. "

A useful question you might ask yourself is : "What skill do I most want to learn, 1st ? "

Have fun ! :)


Annie

[Rems]

Thank you all.
I just might try this thing.

[Annie]

Hi again, Rem -

You said : "Thank you all. I just might try this thing. "

Whatever *positive, helpful and wonderfully new skill(s)* you are wanting to learn, it will help you immensely to approach it/them with an attitude of " This is such a wonderful FUN idea that I just know will work for me, and I can learn it very easily ... " : Same as when you were just a "wee little child". Do you remember way back then being just soo excited to learn something fascinatingly new ? :)

Approach your Learnings with that same successful attitude, and you will go far !

once again, have Fun ... and be blessed in All you do :)


Annie

[Unregistered]

Well, in my first 1/2 hour looking into Internet about NLP and Hypnosis I found some companies, which can make your boobs biger and make you eat less, quit smoking, quit drinking, be a good person etc.
This all is done for money of course.

There are some things I would like to improve in myself, like be more motevated, less agressive etc. Is this all possible through hypnosis or is this just rubbish?

Because it is difficult to believe that these problems are so easy to solve by just letting to hypnotise You for some hour.

There is too much evidence that this does indeed work, but it takes more than one session. As many as seven or eight, etc. It depends on the individual's depth of ingrained problems

[Unregistered]

Moderator: Annie is spamming.

[Steve]

Hello,

Other than your not liking Annie, or her style maybe, what is your evidence?
What *specifically* do you call spamming?
Why don't you have the decency to identify yourself before levelling such claims?

It would seem to me that you are contributing nothing but whining and making noise.
Isn't that worse?

At least Annie logs in and signs her posts.

[Hibbitty]

Hi folks,

I was reading a conversation involving a very (medically) skeptical individual of hypnosis to enlarge breasts and a proponent of such. Neither person had access to any of the actual scientific studies which were in dispute.

Now my questions are twofold:

1. Where are the studies? I imagine they are available to the public, since they are of a scientific nature...

2. For what reason did Annie get banned, if it's part of your policy to disclose this?

Maybe this deserves it's own thread, I dunno, I just used your search feature and this seemed to be the most appropriate topic.

Hibbs

[Don]

http://www.deeptrancenow.com/breast.htm

Scroll down to the bottom. There are five different papers listed providing evidence.

If a person frequently makes attacks on others, they will be warned to cease. If, after frequent warnings, they continue to attack others, they will lose their privileges to continue posting here.

[Hibbitty]

Hi Don,

Thanks for the prompt answers.

I wasn't clear enough in my inquiry... I'm aware of those five papers, just a bit lost in finding the actual papers themselves, so I might be able to refer to their methodology and specific data in more detail.

Do you know how finding hard copies, or better yet - web copies, of the studies would be possible?

I realize that for some, no amount of evidence will sway them from their beliefs (especially this one character in the aforementioned conversation), but feel a certain scientific intrigue in tracking them down...

:D

Hibbs

[Zanther]

Well, in my first 1/2 hour looking into Internet about NLP and Hypnosis I found some companies, which can make your boobs biger and make you eat less, quit smoking, quit drinking, be a good person etc.
This all is done for money of course.

There are some things I would like to improve in myself, like be more motevated, less agressive etc. Is this all possible through hypnosis or is this just rubbish?

Because it is difficult to believe that these problems are so easy to solve by just letting to hypnotise You for some hour.
I totally understand wanting to know from real people if it works or if it's just some woowoo scam that people keep buying into. I'm not a professional hypnotist, but am studying it. My suggestion is to visit a site that has either hypnosis files you can buy/download or CDs you can order, with a money-back guarantee.

You try it for yourself. See if you notice change. If it doesn't work get your money back, try another site. If it's still not working, maybe try a local hypnotist to visit with a good guarantee. If it's still not working, get your money back and nothing lost.

But if it works for you (which it probably will), then you'll be opened up to a whole new world of possibilities.

[Merlin]

Medical research is usually found in medical journals.
They are available by subscription for many $$$

But if you know the specific article you can go to the library reference desk and ask them to get a copy for you.