how useful is time line therapy in the practice of hypnotherapy?

[kelly]

how useful is time line therapy in the practice of hypnotherapy? seems like a lot of people who does hypnosis uses it.

[Don]

Do you know of a mechanic who only uses one wrench (for our British readers, that's a spanner)? I don't. They have many wrenches so that whatever the problem, they'll have the right tool.

In hypnosis, there are many different inductions (and you can create your own) and many different types of suggestions. Having another tool can make you a better mechanic...if you can use the tools well.

[Nigel H]

I have seen a number of hypnotherapists use Time Line type theory in their work, although they have not used it as per Tad James' script and method.

I personally think that Tad's Time Line Therapy(TM) method is fantastic and very swift and effective in dealing with Negative Emotions and Limiting Decisions. I find it a very elegant method and wholly reliable in that you know it has worked immediately because you can see the physiological shift in the client at the time, and then test the outcome, so you know (and more importantly the client has conscious awareness) that it has worked.

I hope this helps.

Nig

[Poodle]

YES, sometimes it can be the only thing that exists between losing a client or getting them what they need. That makes it a necessity IMHO.

[Jack]

Hello Kelly,

Don's reply was very succinct and I would only add that many hypotherapists use time line techniques without being formally trained in the methodology. Regression and Progression are part of the toolbox, but TL formalises and enhances these techniques.

Jack

[Poodle]

The only TLT I know is from Tad James. I don't understand how someone could teach TLT without calling it TLT -- if you check those words, there is a little R above them, meaning that work (process) is Dr. James'. I would not necessarily say that a client has a "conscious awareness" after the process as a lot of TLT is done in trance while above the Time Line. Sometimes it takes that old subconscious time to process "new" information. Say someone used TLT for insomnia. The results would not be immediate unless you sent the client to bed to sleep at whatever time in the afternoon/morning. That would be totally foolish. It is a wonderful healing modality and I encourage everyone to learn it the correct way -- the Tad James method, that is.

[Nigel H]

Hi Poodle - I have found that having used Time Line Therapy(TM) for negative emotions and Limiting Decisions the client always has conscious awareness afterwards, of the Emotion having gone or feeling differenty about the decision/limiting belief they used to have. I find it an important part of the session and a good convincer for the client, when they have conscious/unconscious integration in this way - and that is part of the reason for the test and future pace after each emotion/decision has been released.

On the matter of people doing it differently to Tad James' TLT method, there appear to be hypnotherapists using other methodology. I have seen Paul Mckenna using some Time Line terminology on TV with clients, but it was not as per Tad's method and script. Clearly the principles have been around for many many years [centuries even] and Tad refined a method to use from the theory that went before. I imagine that others have used the theory of the time line in their own ways also, to use in hypnosis and hence how such things come about.

Cheers

Nig

[Nigel H]

Oops - sorry Poodle - I meant to ask - I have not used it for Insomnia and am interested in how you would apply it?

Are you talking in terms of doing a breakthrough session and dealing with all the 'stuff' that gives someone the Insomnia, in which case I would understand, or something else ?!?!?

Thanks

Nig

[Poodle]

Now you're getting it!

[Jack]

The best treatment I've found for Insomnia, Nigel is a Binaural Beat CD. Requires no TLT nor hypnotherapy and works in most but not all cases.

The few cases it doesn't work with seem to be ones where there is a large and usually hidden benefit in staying awake.

Jack

[Poodle]

Ever so right on that one. I had the problem for years. My mind would NOT hold a hypnotic suggestion for over a couple of days nor did TLT work. Finally a long time after training I figured out there must be something else going on in there. I was asked to unconsciously find it. One day all of a sudden the idea of Parts popped into my head from nowhere. So upon chunking up and down I am sleeping quite well with the assistance of a NLP Trainer. It was that security was overriding sleep. This took many hours on both of our parts but it is working. Security just got out of control. I don't even know if a Master Practitioner could have handled this problem as it got so complex but now all is well. I feel as if the problem could have been handled in hypnosis as we use Parts too but apparently it never dawned on my practitioner.

[Jack]

It's funny you know Poodle, how Parts seems to have dropped out of fashion, in the same way that the Six Step Reframe did. I still use modifications of Parts/SSR and find it very powerful. I think many hypnos get a little frightened about using it, and probably rightly so since in the wrong hands it can wreak havoc.

The fact that you recognised a disgruntled part or parts and got agreement is quite unusual without the aid of another practitioner, so well done.

Jack

[Poodle]

I am a Master NLP Practitioner too and I use Parts a lot in my practice in hypnosis. I did not know they were not "fashionable" as I consider it to be a very valuable tool. Anyway, with my knowledge of my mind, I had to define the WFO, my SC came up with parts and security just sorta leaped out on it's own like "HELP ME!!!!". As I said, I did have the help of a NLP Trainer but with my knowledge I was given "homework" so to speak. The Trainer chunked the parts and the trance consisted of meta4's with nested loops but the WFO was achieved. My only problem was having to stop trying to examine the meta4's and find the nested loops and making sure they meta4's were finished so it would work. Not an easy task for a practitioner. So sad practitioners/hypnotists don't believe in the value of parts. I would not know how to do smoking cessation with out it! I would venture to say I would have the same problem if it were not for dear old "Parts". I believe the concept of Parts is integral to NLP teaching or at least in the Bandler-Grinder methodology. Maybe we can reeducate the world a little here. Suppose??

[Poodle]

Bandler is now saying that reframing doesn't work. Why? Probably because he doesn't own it and has moved on to other things that he does own. Whatever!!

[Jack]

I'm quite sure that Bandler has his own reasons for saying that reframing doesn't work, and they may not be connected with whether it does or does not.;) If he says that it does not then perhaps he would like to say it to the clients for whom it has and reframe them so that they get the original problem back?

Jack

[skip]

As someone who likes reframing, and uses it extensively, I know it works. Generally if I can get one solid reframe, 90% of my work is done.

But I dare say Bandler is correct about reframing, in the context that many people do what they consider to be a reframe, and fail to realize it didnt 'take'.

A good reframe is 50% skill, 50% Art, 50%luck, and 50% magik, or some variation of that.

When one is done right, you can actually percieve the change taking place. You can observe the physical manifestations of the internal changes taking place. I liken it to watching dominos fall.

If you do a reframe, and the clients world doesnt change, even if just a bit.

Then the reframe simply didnt work.

Do you suppose that might be what Bandler was talking about?

skip

[TaffyE]

A good reframe is 50% skill, 50% Art, 50%luck, and 50% magik, or some variation of that.
skip
:) Intersting maths, Skip.A bit like one politician's wife is quoted as saying "Half the people love him, half hate him, and the rest don't know what to make of him" :)