belief system

[naphere]

whats is everybodies belief system or paradigmn here?
religious scientific other or what? I guess as far as I go I believe in a mind dimension im no longer scientific or religious.
I used to study chaos magick heres a url www.chaosmagic.com
Im also a big fan of Criss Angel & illusionists in general for whatever thats worth,

[Unregistered1]

whats is everybodies belief system or paradigmn here?
religious scientific other or what? I guess as far as I go I believe in a mind dimension im no longer scientific or religious.
I used to study chaos magick heres a url www.chaosmagic.com
Im also a big fan of Criss Angel & illusionists in general for whatever thats worth,

if you presuppose everyone is pretty much coming from a realist framework, you probably won't go too far wrong &)& - anyone truly aware of the unveridicality of that framework probably wouldn't spend much time with this sort of thing, although for the most part the realist framework tends to have an all consuming draw even the most adept zenist can't help getting sucked into.

[Unregistered1]

.... don't you think? :)

[Merlin]

I'm a Christian.
I don't see that as precluding science.
I see science as a progress report on current theory.

[Terry (existing)]

In other words, according to what you write, you have no belief system at all? You mind is in complete chaos, yet you are curious as to our beliefs. I wonder why. After all, you do admit to have rejected everything other than chaos, so it isn't as if you didn't have choices...

[naphere]

I said I used to study chaos magick which does a good job of deconstructing paradigmns. I now believe in a mind paradigmn if you will and my mind is not in chaos. chaos magick teaches you how to reconstruct a more accurate paradigmn by taking bits and pieces of each and making them your own.

[Terry (existing)]

I said I used to study chaos magick which does a good job of deconstructing paradigmns. I now believe in a mind paradigmn if you will and my mind is not in chaos. chaos magick teaches you how to reconstruct a more accurate paradigmn by taking bits and pieces of each and making them your own. Ah, thank you for the correction. I make sense our of chaos, but I do it using plain old common sense, and my imagination, rather than be guided by something somebody else wrote. Nice to hear how the other half live though...

[Fodupo]

Where you get it???

[Left_of_Center]

Ah, thank you for the correction. I make sense our of chaos, but I do it using plain old common sense, and my imagination, rather than be guided by something somebody else wrote. Nice to hear how the other half live though...

As if you've never read something, and thought "gee, that makes a lot of sense".;)

[Peter Paul]

I said I used to study chaos magick which does a good job of deconstructing paradigmns. I now believe in a mind paradigmn if you will and my mind is not in chaos. chaos magick teaches you how to reconstruct a more accurate paradigmn by taking bits and pieces of each and making them your own.
Mind Magic = combining NLP + Hypnosis + Magick + Energy Work + a Little Faith + Chemical X & a little Chaos
This all seams to have a relationship to alchemy and psychology.plus or minus some of the + have you ever recived the lapas stone as a gift, there is only one place you can recive it.
So I say to some to much mixing not enoughf fasting.

[NothingButAName]

Hey, whatsup?
I believe only that belief creates reality. i think that there is a hidden truth to everything, that we can not see anything fully for what it is...i find things that hold mystery facinating. i've studied a bit of caos magick before, ever read books called Liber Null & Psychonaut or Liber Chaos? Great stuff. i use to be dellusioned, thinking that i could become the messiah if i only would try hard enough, got out of that and used a bit more critical thinking when it comes to things...now, if i don't percieve it in some way as being true based on the experience that i have had, i generally don't believe it. I am now becoming smewhat proficient with choosing what i wish to believe at any point in time.

[Poodle]

i before e, EXCEPT after c. An athiest to boot. Huuummmmmm!

[Connie]

I don't know what this "system" thing means. I don't have a single system. What I believe (i before e) is evolving at all times. I like that!

[NothingButAName]

I had a friend who found people immature when they would correct their speeling, he would always say "this isn't a grammar class" or something to that effect. As to being an atheist, i am not...i believe firmly in a god simply because i feel him. it seems to me poodle anything that i have to say you somehow dissagree with or bicker about it in some way...i'm wondering if you are female because with a name like poodle it would make you just a *****.

[Poodle]

A belief is simply a belief of "your reality" and since I have "my own reality" I don't have to share "your beliefs" unless they fit into my reality too. Some beliefs are fantastic and others can keep us from being all we can be, do or have. There is a big difference between a belief and something you absolutely positively KNOW FOR SURE as then it's not a belief. I KNOW FOR SURE THE SUN RISES IN THE EAST AND SETS IN THE WEST WHERE I LIVE. Just make a couple of pictures in your mind - one "just a belief" and the other "know for sure". See how they differ. It's fun. I happen to like stubborn people as it shows they have tenacity. Pood

[NothingButAName]

i was thinking about it a lot last night (couldn't sleep because something was bothering my mind). i've been in and out of many different cultish types of organized thought throughout the past four years. it seems i've had to continualy get rid of what i thought was right, call myself wrong, and think something entirely different over and over again. so after being in many different kinds of cults i sought to actually look into the structure of cults, turns out all religions look a little like them. with that in mind, who do i trust? if every belief system that involves the sacred looks to me like it's trying to pull the wool over my eyes, who do i turn to? i now turn to myself...or my inner world and distinguish for myself what i believe for what i know, it seems that my mind and heart are in constant battle and all i trully know for sure now is that there is a god...anything else, i've only been told.

[Poodle]

You know that for sure. That isn't a bad belief and most people on Planet Earth will agree with you on that as God has many names and faces. Now, make a picture in your mind of something you "believe" but don't know if it's really fact. What's the difference in the pictures? One closer, farther, sharper, fuzzier? Pood

[Docresults]

i was thinking about it a lot last night (couldn't sleep because something was bothering my mind). i've been in and out of many different cultish types of organized thought throughout the past four years. it seems i've had to continualy get rid of what i thought was right, call myself wrong, and think something entirely different over and over again. so after being in many different kinds of cults i sought to actually look into the structure of cults, turns out all religions look a little like them. with that in mind, who do i trust? if every belief system that involves the sacred looks to me like it's trying to pull the wool over my eyes, who do i turn to? i now turn to myself...or my inner world and distinguish for myself what i believe for what i know, it seems that my mind and heart are in constant battle and all i trully know for sure now is that there is a god...anything else, i've only been told.

NBAN,

Please remember beliefs and belief systems are not the truth. They are different from truth. They are only thoughts that we have repeated often enough to put more value behind than thoughts we haven't repeated.

You may also want to consider that the model of being right or wrong was presented to you for the purpose of being happy. Fortunately or unfortunately (depending on how you look at it) happiness and being right do not have anything to do with each other.

Rightness = Happiness is one of those Junko-logic algorithms.

Rightness depends on external circumstances where as happiness requires no external circumstances.

I also suspect that the more you go inside the more you'll discover not that there is a God but that you are the leading edge extension of God. You may also discover you can label yourself right and wrong, cultish or free at the same time and it have no control over your emotions or your thinking (not bother you at all) and you can maintain your happiness.

Consider forgetting the past, notice where you are at present and where you want to be and then ask yourself the Magic Question... (See archives for the Magic Question.)

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[NothingButAName]

My experience is that for me the world shows itself more in feeling than any other sense, i am labeled as a "kinesthetic".
If i were to pay more attention to pictures rather than feelings though i would experience the picture of knowing as sharper, closer, and bigger. as for the concept of things i consider "belief" they are a bit fuzzier not as big and so far away i can't make out the detail even if i wished to.
i know there is a god because every time i have gone away from this belief i first experience the elation that i am the creator of my own life, then lonliness sets in with a healthy dose of hubris and dellusion.
i guess when i claim to "know" something that is trully just a belief i call it knowing because i have found more utility in holding it as true, if that makes any sense.
certainty for me seems to lye in the fact that all things are uncertain.
Question: is claiming that anything is absolutely true or false an incorrect map or less effective than living with all uncertainties, no white or black?

[Poodle]

is it true or false that you are a male? Your subconscious knows the differences in how you created the visualizations even though you write you are predominatelyare a K. You still use your other senses.

Certain things are facts - You are not a dog, cat, horse, cow, etc.

Beliefs become "real" only when they have been repeated often enough to become part of "our reality", that which we believe to be true. Some beliefs are wonderful and very useful, i.e., don't put your hand on the hot burner of the stove. Maybe mother told you over and over to form the belief that it is dangerous. Maybe you found out all on your own. OUCH! Others can limit us or be negative in which case it would be best to let them go. In NLP, we believe that if it is humanly possible, it is possible for us too. We just have to learn how. Now that's a pretty useful belief, isn't it? How about the belief when the Doc hands writes you a Rx and says: "This will do the trick"? That's a useful belief and the med will probably work even though it may be a placebo. If you were to say something like: It's wrong to be Conservative. That is a belief a NLPer would challenge. Just like when my clients come in and say: "I'm depressed." My first question is: How do you know? as it often is just a negative and limiting belief. Does this help any? Pood :)