Please help all NLPers

[solaris152000]

I am doing a project on "Manipulative psychology" I have created this term for "magic" tricks using NLP, cold reading and suggestion. Basically psychological illusions. Does anyone know any sites for which I can research from, or give me some info.

I want to produce a project which gives explanations for derren brown type tricks using psychological methods?

Any help would be appreceated.
Solaris

PS: Please don't turn this into a debate over wheater derren uses phycological methods....Thanks.

[Sponge]

what do you mean by "project"?

PS* psychological.
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[solaris152000]

For english we got the choice to do it on anythinhg and I picked NLP and such methods. :)

[Sponge]

that would be exposing "magic tricks" or "manipulative psychology" to people at your school, and you will no longer have the power of DB.

PS* not david beckham.
PS* or david blain.
PS* or daniel beddingfield.

[solaris152000]

No one else is gonna read it and "magic tricks" will not be exposed just phycologcal illusions.
Anyway my teacher is dumb so she won't (or anyone else) understand my superior volcabulary.

[Sponge]

i dnot tihnk aynnoe wlil undresnad yuor lagnauge if ist as bda as yuro tpying.
read what you posted in the embedded comands thread. every word you typed were spelt wrong.

anyway, back on subject.
what does it matter what you write if she wont understand it?
she wont be able to tell if its true or not.

[Robert]

Amen to title of this thread "please help all NLPers"

please help all nelpers to step beyond technique.

please helpp all nlpers to let go of all attachments to their outcomes

please help all nelpers to not take so seriously the observations of two wild & crazy guys from santa cruz.

please help all nelpers to remember to go first and to influence themselves first.

please help all nlpers to remember the power of simplicity

please help all nlpers to be in geniunely and congruently in positive and resourceful states such that with each breath they take they notice that we feel more empowered.

please help all nlpers to step beyond power into integrity and wisdom

please help all nelpers to remember that nlp lives in interactions, and not in concepts

please help all nelpers to remember that nlp is made to be used

please help all nlpers to remember to take what is useful and to discard the rest.

please help all nlpers to remember that with all their nlp they still put their pants on one leg at a time

please help nlpers to remember that the source of nlp is modeling

please help nlpers to live Richard Bandler's 1985 definition of the law of requisite variety - patience and giving a damn.

please help all nlpers to remember that love is more important than any technique.

please help all nlpers to remember to be humble, for we are but modelers. We are seek to find the difference that makes the difference....having a few of these distinctions does not make us better than anyone.

p-lease help all nlpers to approach nlp from the attitude of "what can I contribute to the person in front of them and the world - rather than what can I get from them.

[solaris152000]

very good...BUT THAT DOESN'T HELP ME!!! Let them all use bad techniques...but just give me knowledge!

[solaris152000]

Could anyone help....please?

[Don]

Solaris, for what you are looking for I would suggest the publications of Kenton Knepper. You can find his "Wonder Words" at http://www.wonderwizards.com/cat.php?id=1 which describes what you are looking for.

Of course, this is his LIVING so he doesn't give it away. Personally, I think that knowledge is never, as you requested, given. Knowledge is always earned.

[Unregistered]

You might start with the definition of "manipulate". To work deliberately, to work with your hands.

All communication is manipulative. If I describe my vacation laying on a hot beach sipping a pina colada, with the turquoise blue water...you are going to, at some level, have a response to this which most likely will include making a mental picture of it. Is this manipulation? Did I "Make" you do this?

NLP has been called, along with hypnosis, precision communication. If I could, just by talking to you, say some things that would get rid of your headache, would you want me to do it? It would be manipulative though.

Your project has several presuppositions......

I would not want to see a non-manipulative psychologist, NLPer, dentist, sugeon. I want them to do something to help! IT's the whole POINT.

Write on a different topic. You have selected several doctoral thesis.

[j0hnny#]

With respect - cos its a nice answer - that Solaris has picked the subject of several doctoral theses starting with his own definition will stand him in good stead as he is only 14. :)

Also
I would not want to see a non-manipulative psychologist, NLPer, dentist, sugeon. I want them to do something to help! IT's the whole POINT.


could add mentalist in there also, perhaps?

[solaris152000]

Okay... then I will call it : "Using NLP suggestion emmebedded commands hypnosis hellstromism suggestion cold reading waking hypnosis placebo effects and body language for personal gain and entertainment for others" Now if I can fit that on the front cover I will use that then:rolleyes:


Anyway any resources you can point me too?

[RussWilde]

Why not write the "project" ina cryptic method.

Start with an introduction mentioning that the following document contains suggestion // NLP patterns // embedded commands etc.

then structure semi-random words for two or three pages with enough partial structure to make people rack their brains as to how to decode it, then after a blank page have a page with a title 1/3rd of the way down the page with the number 70% at the 2/3rds down mark. Include the words thinking mental and mark in the blurb which the 70% is embedded in and them have your actual paper on the following pages.

Perhaps, just perhaps this will plant a 70% number in their now confused and delerious mind which will embrace the structure of the page in which it sits and rejoice when the proper paper starts.

At the very least they will beleive you are doing something new, creative and potentially incredibly clever for someone of 14 years of age..?

[Don]

I think you might include in the paper that it would be a DISSERVice to all GOOD people who are on an upward GRADE in their lives not to work with the concepts of the paper...
:-)

[solaris152000]

lol, I was thinking about using some reaally technical words to confuse my English teacher as I dont like her, and she will think I'm really clever.

[Don]

One of the things I've noticed is that if you don't like what you're writing, it will come across that way in the "flavor" of the writing. I would contend that because you don't like your teacher, that will in some way come across in your words. Not matter how clever you are your teacher won't think it at all.

Perhaps you could use the skills you have to learn how to like her. Perhaps you could find something about her--her looks, her voice, something she does--that interests you.

In fact, how about doing a paper on using NLP or hypnosis on yourself so you can turn feelings of dislike into feelings of liking someone so you get along better. Not only would that be clever, but it could be used by lots of people.