View Full Version : Time Line Therapy and Acid Reflux--could it work?
Connie
12-02-2006, 11:29 PM
Hello! Today in class my teacher used me as the test subject for a time line therapy demonstration. Here's the problem I came up with for him to help me with: acid reflux disease (which I've had for about 6 years).
Do you think that something physical like that can be "fixed" through this therapy? He claimed success with allergies. He spent 1 and 1/2 hours working on me today. Through a lengthy bout of questions and answers, he basically traced the onset of the disease to my ill feelings associated with a series of bad jobs I had: "These people make me sick." I told a story of how a current co-worker of mine laughed when I said my mother was dying and tried to make a joke out of it, suggesting that I had poisoned her. We took this feeling (of nausea basically), and went back in time to other experiences I had had that made me feel a similar way. We went all the way back in time to when I was about 3 years old and playing on the floor while an abusive live-in nanny psychologically tortured my oldest brother (kept him home from school doing housework) and told us things like "No, you can't have any milk. Milk's for dessert." :eek:
Anyway, then we discussed what the higher intentions of the various abusive people in my past were, and what emotions/feelings we needed to install in them to have them behave differently. We did that. I stepped into the nanny. I stepped into my brother. I stepped into the 3-year old me and reimprinted my beliefs about life and people in authority. He brought me forward and we repeated these steps with other episodes from my past--including one involving me around age 7 and my older sister and her penchant for torturing me and making me feel stupid, clumsy, and gauche.
So, we came forward and two weeks into the future. A future where I don't take my little acid pills any more, and don't need them. Tomorrow I'll begin the test. I'll stop taking my medicine! Do you think it will work? In the olden days (a few years ago), I could eat anything, no matter how fiery or spicy, and I never had any ill effects. I considered that I had a "cast iron stomach." It's really only since I moved back home to Seattle (and had this series of unfortunate jobs) that I threw up all the time and discovered that I couldn't eat chocolate, caffeine, onions, cinnamon, mexican spices, etc.
My opinion:
1) If your pills are prescription, it would be illegal for a hypnotherapist (and possibly a TLT prac) to suggest or recommend that you stop taking them.
2) ARD causes physiological problems with the esophagus. Unless the TLT has caused a miracle of healing, what has resolved the deterioration of the esophagus?
My suggestion: do not stop following the doctor who prescribed the pill's instructions without consulting him or her first. If the TLT works--and I have every confidence that it should--the deterioration in the esophagus should heal itself within a few weeks. At that time your physician should make an exam (probably including putting a small camera into the throat while you are sedated). If your physician says you can stop taking the pills, then you should do so.
BTW, if the doctor assumes that the pill caused the reversal of the physiological problems with the esophagus (as opposed to the TLT), ask why it did not resolve the problem over the six years and only know, after the TLT work, it is better?
Merlin
12-03-2006, 11:11 AM
TLT can be used for the reflux issue.
Be aware though.
As with any issue, the purpose may be for good reason.
Meaning, not having the reflux could be worse.
Afterall, reflux is not a disease, but a symptom.
So, just be careful you're not just dealing with a symptom.
Poodle
12-03-2006, 01:00 PM
Quote from Tad James in your book: "Remember it is illegal to interfer with a client-MD relationship. It is a good time to work with client if MD gave up on them. It is illegal to to prescribe (even homeopathic) - send them to the health food store. Chopra: New soft tissue average 3 months. The question should have been: Some UN minds like to get rid of this problem in as little as 2 months - would that be okay with you (a NO). Some UN minds like to get rid of this problem in as much as 4 months - would that be okay with you. Then the three months which it should but may not agree to. Also TLT is a learning experience for YOU. What did you learn about each of those events? Going into another person during TLT must be something new as I sure can't find it in Tad's work. I also would not say two weeks into the future is much of a "future test". Did Michael do this?
Tad and Adriana GUARANTEE their time line work but they don't do it without a Rx from the MD. I would not even like to know how much this would cost as I'm sure it would be more than I could pay. Hugs, Anne
tdiamond
12-03-2006, 01:51 PM
water water everywhere... mine's cures after 7 or so years of docs and stuff.. I know you have talked about other people being dehrydrated...
I had to drink way more than I ever thought I would need but it works.. especially if I drink a ton after a meal...
Not a doc.. dont play one on tv, most of the time anyway.. Time empowerment for the reason.. water for the symptoms....
and of course.. follow the docs advice... I suppose :)
Poodle
12-03-2006, 09:33 PM
It finally dawned on me what was going on in your class Connie. This was not Time Line Therapy. It is a NLP process called Re-Imprinting. It's only purpose is to change beliefs. I quite imagine today you got into the real Time Line Therapy which is a whole 'nother critter. There is time line work in NLP but it is not Time Line Therapy. Sorry for my confusion. Anne
Connie
12-04-2006, 04:36 AM
Hi, everyone! Thanks for the responses. Poodle is right. I mislabeled this. Sorry! It wasn't Time Line Therapy (registered trademark). It was an imprinting exercise. TODAY we learned the "official" Time Line Therapy process.
Now, as to the acid reflux. My teacher did suggest to me that I consult my doctor first. But I don't need to do this! My prior conversation with the doc was that this problem might clear up in the future and the only way to KNOW would be to stop taking the medicine and see how I feel. He (my doc) recommended I do this periodically in the future. Having lost a lot of weight also in recent months (another factor in the disease), I thought this would be a good time for a trial.
BUT, tonight I felt kind of sick. Stomach ache. I think more work (whether time line or something else hypnotically) is going to be needed for the acid problem.
Connie
12-04-2006, 04:48 AM
TLT can be used for the reflux issue.
Be aware though.
As with any issue, the purpose may be for good reason.
Meaning, not having the reflux could be worse.
Afterall, reflux is not a disease, but a symptom.
So, just be careful you're not just dealing with a symptom.
Thank you, Merlin! That's an important point. :)
Terry (existing)
12-04-2006, 09:48 AM
Connie, I imagine that your doctor told you the root cause of your problem didn't he? Acid reflux can have several causes, among them being an ulcer, and of course a "Relaxed Sphincter", and the drill differs in each case.
Remembering that not all problems can be solved by the hammer, you need to understand the cause, and then find the cure, rather than look to resolve a problem before knowing what caused it. Special excercises may be required in one case, and medication or surgery in another. When dealing with a medical problem, always consult the doctor, and ask questions so that you know the cause of the problem as well as the symptoms. I did, and successfuly dealt with a relaxed sphincter, otherwise I would hesitate to offer any advice, since I see it as a medical problem....
Connie
12-04-2006, 09:59 AM
Thanks, Terry. He did not tell me a cause, "he" being my doctor. There was no ulcer. I've seen more than one MD regarding this. They basically just gave it a name: GERD, and I've tried several different prescriptions for it, of varying efficacy. One doctor made it clear that it might just take care of itself, with "lifestyle changes" such as losing weight and avoiding the trigger foods. I have lost the weight. I'm thinner now than before this problem.
I think I'm going to leave it alone (hypnotically and NLP-ly speaking) for the time being and find easier problems to play with. I've already gotten several of my problems "fixed," including the spider phobia, so I've been scrambling around for things to work on during these class exercises. :D
Be a real shame to leave class with no problems left wouldnt it?
:)
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Merlin has made the most important point. You are the only one who knows what it is your stomach is trying to get out of your body. And if you do not, ask it.
Jack
Simon
12-15-2006, 03:35 PM
Jack, I respect your work and do not doubt your expertise.
BUT
Ask the stomach? Am I the only one seeing the funniness in this statement? :D
Terry (existing)
12-15-2006, 09:01 PM
Actually, Jack has a good point, when in doubt, ask the one who knows. Your subconcious is in control of every area of the body, and knows what is wrong with various parts, so you ask it if the doctor is in doubt, or even if the doctor gives a name to it, but you don't know the meaning of that name, or the cause of the problem. The problem may not require anything more than suggestion, but in the event that something else is required, it won't be eradicated until it gets what it needs no matter how good you are.
Yep, it does sound funny, Simon.
BUT...
The function of the stomach is controlled by the subconscious, as is every automatic body function of which I am aware. By asking the stomach, through the subconscious, trust me, it will tell you what the problem is.
Jack
Jack, I respect your work and do not doubt your expertise.
BUT
Ask the stomach? Am I the only one seeing the funniness in this statement? :D
Merlin
12-17-2006, 11:54 AM
Jack is right :)
Jack is right :)
It must be Christmas:)
Jack
Merlin
12-17-2006, 01:57 PM
Even a broken clock is right twice each day ;)
Simon
12-18-2006, 02:27 AM
All this love is making me feel sooo warm inside :)
I have never seen you as a broken clock, M.:)
Jack
Even a broken clock is right twice each day ;)
Merlin
12-23-2006, 12:42 PM
TRY.........
Poodle
12-23-2006, 02:06 PM
It would be futile for Jack. The word "try" indicates failure and we sure don't want Jack to fail at anything. Yes, I know. I'm buried up to my ears in "Bandler". LOL ;)
TRY.........
Only if you do.
Jack
It would be futile for Jack. The word "try" indicates failure and we sure don't want Jack to fail at anything. Yes, I know. I'm buried up to my ears in "Bandler". LOL ;)
Pood, I love failure. But I love what happens after even more.:)
Jack
Merlin
12-24-2006, 10:14 AM
*TRY* implies the possibility of failure.
TRY does not necessitate failure
Merlin
12-24-2006, 10:17 AM
OK.
You've got me ticking.
Terry (existing)
12-24-2006, 11:23 AM
"Oh Lord forgive the man who never fails". It means that he has never stretched to find his limits, and failed to meet his true protential.
OK.
You've got me ticking.
Great, get Santa to wind you up.
In the meantime I will lubricate my mainspring.:D
Jack