Okay here we go...

[solaris152000]

I am going to try one last time, but first here are the rules of this thread.

Just don't tell me derren brown isn't real, or is a mentaist or a magician, or whatever I jsut dont care anymore!

Don't reveal any magic trick, I just want NLP and such methods here...




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Okay so this is what I have got so far to force a card


1. I would establish rapport, through finding there primary rersentational system and mirroring it, also I would mirror voice tonality and speed and body lanuage.

2. After establishing rapport, I would tell them about me thinking I have magical power's and that how good I am, while saying all that I would use embedded commands such as (this is where I would like help)

3. I could maybe start anchoring the the subject to amazement and joyness and such( I would also like help on that sort of stuff)

4. Ask them to "pick" a card in there mind.

5. I would then guess there card





Thanks for any replies
Solaris

[Sponge]

You do to much. fair enough you should gain rapport, but when in your scenario do you use the "amazement and joyness" anchor? Why anchor it? unless you go through options of cards they could pick like - red or bl(anchorise)ack.

How i would do this "effect" would be to not say "and your card is the ......", i would say there card in a way so if its wrong they dont think i took a guess eg.
"Keep repeating it over and over to yourself, like 2 of clubs, 2 of clubs" So if it is they'll say something and if it isnt they wont think you "got it wrong".

[solaris152000]

Yes, I do use similar methods, how about stickinh it to the out side of a window like blaine and then throwin the cards at it and there card will be stuck there, this would be better than blaines way because the victim would not be able to say it was sleight of hand and hey would be completly dumfounded...... well you know what I mean!