Persuasion Skills
09-22-2004, 02:33 PM
Dear Solaris
Hopefully once and for all this will answer your Questions.
As you may know I teach covert real world nlp /persuasion. I also occasionally perform mentalism and Hypnosis, and all the effects I have outlined below I have performed...
I have met Derren on a couple of occassions and talked to various famous mentalists via email over the years, including Ian Rowlan, Ford Kross, Richard Busch and Banachek (he liked my website!).
By asking about how Derren uses NLP to achieve effects, I am going to collate a number of techniques:
Hypnosis
Slight of Mouth
Pyschological Forcing
Suggestion / Waking Hypnosis
Dual Reality
Cold Reading
Anchoring
Lets Start with Dual Reality
This is a technique where the subect ( person doing the trick) and the audiance are hering the exact same words, however because the language is vague (slight of mouth) the audiance believes that mind reading is happening whilst the subject believes he is being asked to do something else.
Kenton Kneppers Wonder Words uses this principal.
Pychologigal forcing / slight of mouth
By Using Words and gestures such as "chose a card see it brightly and in colour" (most people will see a red card)
For other examples i recommend Derren Browns Pure Effect and his Devils Picture book video I would also recommend Banacheks Pyschological Subtelties.
Cold Reading
A technique used by Fortune Tellers / Palm readers to tell people about there innermost thoughts again by using vague Language and slight of mouth
Ian Rowlands Full Facts of Cold Reading is an excellent read.
Suggestion
As you know I perform Mentalism and hypnosis, and some people are more suggestable than others
Once people have seen a number of effects the most suggestable member of the audiance can be made to believe that there hands are stuck togeather...that there like stone..., that there jaw is tight....that they can no longer talk....
The New Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnotism by Ormond Mcgill is excellent
Hypnosis
As you can see from suggestion this is really a form of Hypnosis and Derrens Handshake Interupt is a way of inducing a deeper Hypnotic Trance ( Tranceformations By Bandler and Grinder is excellent).
Hypnosis Mind reading & Anchoring
I don't know if this is How Derren does it, but this is how I do it!
I performed this recently at a party
When I was upstairs preparing a person came into the room
I handshake interupted him and put him in a trance and told him when I said the word sleep he would immediately would return to Trance!
I woke him up and he remembered nothing
We carried on talking and I said "sleep", he immediately returned to Trance
"Sleep" is an "Anchor" for more info about anchoring you can visit the articles page on my site http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/articles.asp
Once He returned to trance I told him when I click my fingers I want him to remember something about his childhood...
I then asked him to tell me what it was he told me it was about his dog Barney in alot of detail....
I then walked him to the bathroom and told him he would wake up when he heard the bathroom door close
I closed the door behind me and I went down stairs to do my show
5 minutes later he appeared wide awake from trance, with total amnesia
I then perceeded to do my show including the effects above at the end I asked him up on the stage and said I was going to perform some mind reading
I asked him to think of a memory and clicked my finger
I then asked him to whisper this memory to someone at the back of the audience which he did....
After this I read his Mind about Barney his dog and how he'd bit him....
His face and the girls face where absolutely priceless
I then looked at Him and said "I believe we have a powerful connection"
He looked at me in awe and I said the word "sleep" he immediately went into trance and the crowd went wild...
I would also reccommend 2 International Magic videos by these people
1) Derren Brown
2) Andy Nyman ( which features Brown)
These actually show Derren and Andy doing mind reading and then revealing how they were done
NLP
There are also other Things that I can do using "NLP"
Using Eye Accessing I can spot when someone is lying
Using Anchoring I can make a person pick an object, or react in a cerain way (scream with excitement for example)
Using Language I can put someonde in a light trance conversationally
If yo are interested I have a number of articles on my site explaining how these things are done. http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
I also send out a monthly newsletter with an article on NLP & Persuasion'
Free Appeance (well nearly)
For thos of you who live in london I am doing a free appearnce discussing
Waking Trance and Conversational Hypnosis
At the NLP London Practice Group on October 7th at 7.30
http://www.nlp-london.com/
The group charges £1o entrance fee I believe.
Derren Brown Yahoo Group
I would also reccommend you joining this yahoo group which have nearly expalined all of derrens NLP effects in detail. To exact spelling of this group is
Derren-Brown
Regards
Marc Hogan
http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
Hopefully once and for all this will answer your Questions.
As you may know I teach covert real world nlp /persuasion. I also occasionally perform mentalism and Hypnosis, and all the effects I have outlined below I have performed...
I have met Derren on a couple of occassions and talked to various famous mentalists via email over the years, including Ian Rowlan, Ford Kross, Richard Busch and Banachek (he liked my website!).
By asking about how Derren uses NLP to achieve effects, I am going to collate a number of techniques:
Hypnosis
Slight of Mouth
Pyschological Forcing
Suggestion / Waking Hypnosis
Dual Reality
Cold Reading
Anchoring
Lets Start with Dual Reality
This is a technique where the subect ( person doing the trick) and the audiance are hering the exact same words, however because the language is vague (slight of mouth) the audiance believes that mind reading is happening whilst the subject believes he is being asked to do something else.
Kenton Kneppers Wonder Words uses this principal.
Pychologigal forcing / slight of mouth
By Using Words and gestures such as "chose a card see it brightly and in colour" (most people will see a red card)
For other examples i recommend Derren Browns Pure Effect and his Devils Picture book video I would also recommend Banacheks Pyschological Subtelties.
Cold Reading
A technique used by Fortune Tellers / Palm readers to tell people about there innermost thoughts again by using vague Language and slight of mouth
Ian Rowlands Full Facts of Cold Reading is an excellent read.
Suggestion
As you know I perform Mentalism and hypnosis, and some people are more suggestable than others
Once people have seen a number of effects the most suggestable member of the audiance can be made to believe that there hands are stuck togeather...that there like stone..., that there jaw is tight....that they can no longer talk....
The New Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnotism by Ormond Mcgill is excellent
Hypnosis
As you can see from suggestion this is really a form of Hypnosis and Derrens Handshake Interupt is a way of inducing a deeper Hypnotic Trance ( Tranceformations By Bandler and Grinder is excellent).
Hypnosis Mind reading & Anchoring
I don't know if this is How Derren does it, but this is how I do it!
I performed this recently at a party
When I was upstairs preparing a person came into the room
I handshake interupted him and put him in a trance and told him when I said the word sleep he would immediately would return to Trance!
I woke him up and he remembered nothing
We carried on talking and I said "sleep", he immediately returned to Trance
"Sleep" is an "Anchor" for more info about anchoring you can visit the articles page on my site http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/articles.asp
Once He returned to trance I told him when I click my fingers I want him to remember something about his childhood...
I then asked him to tell me what it was he told me it was about his dog Barney in alot of detail....
I then walked him to the bathroom and told him he would wake up when he heard the bathroom door close
I closed the door behind me and I went down stairs to do my show
5 minutes later he appeared wide awake from trance, with total amnesia
I then perceeded to do my show including the effects above at the end I asked him up on the stage and said I was going to perform some mind reading
I asked him to think of a memory and clicked my finger
I then asked him to whisper this memory to someone at the back of the audience which he did....
After this I read his Mind about Barney his dog and how he'd bit him....
His face and the girls face where absolutely priceless
I then looked at Him and said "I believe we have a powerful connection"
He looked at me in awe and I said the word "sleep" he immediately went into trance and the crowd went wild...
I would also reccommend 2 International Magic videos by these people
1) Derren Brown
2) Andy Nyman ( which features Brown)
These actually show Derren and Andy doing mind reading and then revealing how they were done
NLP
There are also other Things that I can do using "NLP"
Using Eye Accessing I can spot when someone is lying
Using Anchoring I can make a person pick an object, or react in a cerain way (scream with excitement for example)
Using Language I can put someonde in a light trance conversationally
If yo are interested I have a number of articles on my site explaining how these things are done. http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/
I also send out a monthly newsletter with an article on NLP & Persuasion'
Free Appeance (well nearly)
For thos of you who live in london I am doing a free appearnce discussing
Waking Trance and Conversational Hypnosis
At the NLP London Practice Group on October 7th at 7.30
http://www.nlp-london.com/
The group charges £1o entrance fee I believe.
Derren Brown Yahoo Group
I would also reccommend you joining this yahoo group which have nearly expalined all of derrens NLP effects in detail. To exact spelling of this group is
Derren-Brown
Regards
Marc Hogan
http://www.persuasion-skills.co.uk/