PLR and Cleopatra

[Don]

I'm posting this here because I have been working with people using forms of past life regression both involving hypnosis and without trance.

I've personally regressed thousands of people over the years. I have never met Cleopatra. I've never had any Napoleons. In fact, the only people who have ever stated to me that they were someone famous in the past were not regressed by me and they were highly imaginative and extroverted, the archetypal actress/prima dona of film such as the role of Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard. Of the few people who I've regressed and who claim to have been someone famous, that famous person tended to be a very minor player. No kings or queens, no warriors, no religious figures. Occasionally I've had someone who worked with someone famous, but were not famous themselves.

Most people who go through PLR have very mundane lives and remember common things--their parents, lovers, school, friends, picnics, happy events like birthdays, sad events like the deaths of loved ones, etc.

Now I know that many people here work with regression and past lives. I also know that the popular image of such a practice is that people thus regressed are all famous personalities of the past, making light of the PLR technique.

So my questions to the PLR professionals here is these:
1) What percentage of people you've worked with claimed to be someone famous?
2) If working with a group, have you had multiple people claiming to be the same famous person?
3) Of the people who do claim to be someone famous during a PLR, how many were highly extroverted?
4) Of the people who experience being someone famous during a PLR, how many believe themselves to have been that famous person before the PLR?

Thanks in advance.

[Poodle]

I believe when doing PLR, we need to get the facts out without leading so we can verify if indeed, that past life was real or a fantasy of the SC mind. Sylvia Browne has written an interesting book on the subject "Past Lives, Future Healing". I have checked with her on her trainings in this area and apparently no credit is given for already knowing anything and we all start at the beginning. This for me was not an option. Then, of course, we would tangle on semantics as you know I will never stay quiet about that one!! NGH is having a teleseminar on it this evening at 7:15 my time. If you want to listen, you can use my code too or call them up and get one. Would you believe it was cancelled and another topic was up for discussion. They said they sent out emails. Anyone get any?

No, I have not had anyone famous but I can say it is not the most popular item offered around here. For some reason this summer has been tobacco, tobacco and more tobacco. Most have been turned away due to lack of time but a few have persuaded me.

[Jack]

Don,

1.About 5%. However many expected that they would be someone significant before the first session, despite protests to the contrary.

2. No.

3. About half.

4. Again, about half.

I agree that most past lives are banal and ordinary in an historical light, but are often fascinating glimpses into either a) unique historical events, or b) the underlying causality of the problem as a fictional or real account, or c) both.

Of the 5% who claimed to be famous, around 80% were not historically accurate. Of the remainder, I well remember one chap who thought he would be a sea captain, possibly of a tea clipper, but regressed to Nell Gwyn, complete with fairly accurate historical detail. He did not remember the regression afterwards, until I played him the tape. He was not pleased, but it gave me an insight into the problem, and he eventually removed it.

Jack

[Simon]

Jack, could you please elaborate on therapeutic value of playing him the tape?

[Poodle]

When doing PLR, we do make tapes for the clients. There may have been many lives. They come out of trance and don't remember. Could this possibly be why Sylvia Browne titled her book "Past Lives - Future Healings". More often than not, we get what the medical establishment cannot heal, help or cure. She found in PLR, often the way people died carried over to this life as if someone always had a sore neck and there was no medical evidence as to WHY? In PLR it could very well reveal the person was hung. It could also have been a really bad relationship that is repeating itself AGAIN in this life. It's a great book and I would be glad to send you a copy. PM me if you want one. Hugs, Pood

[Jack]

Jack, could you please elaborate on therapeutic value of playing him the tape?

Simon, I cannot give you more details of the actual case, but speaking generically it can (sometimes) be important to link subconscious experience with conscious belief. In this instance my client needed to know from where his problem was arising and his subconscious was hiding this information for historical but no longer pertinent reasons. Once the link was made communication between several parts - who until then had not been communicating and indeed refused to communicate or did not know of the existence of any 'other' to communicate with - ensued and a resolution was reached.

PLR was a last ditch attempt to make this happen, as all other techniques had failed.

Jack

[Poodle]

on that particular individual "Parts" and Parts Integration did not work? The inner-mind refused to acknowledge "parts". I am using "Parts" as a NLP concept as I believe there is part therapy for hypnosis too but I have no idea if it is similar or not. Thanks, Pood

[Simon]

Jack, thanks for this.

However it's very interesting that the problem couldn't be resolved solely with subconscious mind.

[Jack]

on that particular individual "Parts" and Parts Integration did not work? The inner-mind refused to acknowledge "parts". I am using "Parts" as a NLP concept as I believe there is part therapy for hypnosis too but I have no idea if it is similar or not. Thanks, Pood

Pood, I have had a number of occasions when the part which was doing the unwanted behaviour was totally unaware of the existence of other parts. The specific part believed that it was 'mind', and it alone. Often, other parts could be introduced with care, but it can be very difficult when the part producing the behaviour is also the subconscious gatekeeper. There may be other ways to do it, but I utilise conscious belief patterns to pass the message on to the subconscious via storytelling using cooperative metaphors as appropriate.

I should add that this methodology doesn't always work if the 'prime' part and its behaviours is unwilling to accept other parts even if it is made aware of them. Then I may turn to PLR to subvert or revert the prime in order to talk to the current subordinates and organise a different regime.

Jack

[Jack]

Jack, thanks for this.

However it's very interesting that the problem couldn't be resolved solely with subconscious mind.

Simon, my own belief is that all change is the result of cooperation between what we call the integrated subconscious and conscious 'minds'. When cooperation is lacking the resultant conflict can be as devastating as conflict between unintegrated parts of the subconscious.

Jack