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MrDigital
01-05-2008, 10:26 AM
What would you advise your client if this was the case ?

skip
01-05-2008, 10:33 AM
Is it causing a problem?

Poodle
01-05-2008, 10:58 AM
exactly is the question - what's spinning?

Simple Guy
01-05-2008, 11:21 AM
exactly is the question - what's spinning?

I think spinning is some kind of virtual bicycle riding aerobic thing that
takes place in health clubs.

Simple Guy, attempting to lighten things up a bit here. :)

Simple Guy
01-05-2008, 11:27 AM
MrDigital,

Having facilitated hundreds of timelines, I've never had a client mention
any "spinning."

MrDigital
01-05-2008, 11:38 AM
Ok sorry I will care to explain.

A client goes up above the timeline and then mentions spinning around. I think to myself okay no problem and proceed to direct him into an event which he does perfectly. I take him out and back into a few more events in his past and then out into the future.

I ask him to come back to the present, down into the room.

Client states he really enjoyed the experience however felt a little nauseated because he couldn't control the spinning whilst up in the air floating above an event. I said next time we may need to add some rocket propulsion to steady you in the air...

So basically I had elicited the timeline and took him through a little journey above and into three events in his past and one in his future.

I have known people to struggle turning round on the timeline but the spinning was a newbie.

So in this context spinning = whirling, rotating etc.

regards

MrD

mindflip
01-05-2008, 12:56 PM
Hi Mr Digital

I wold love to know, was this an associated or disassociated experience for your client,

The more I think about this question the more i see it as important to understanding what was the reason, for spinning.

I belive that people may morph between the two at different times for different reasons.

If you do decide to ask your client i hope might let us know.

MrDigital
01-05-2008, 01:31 PM
Whilst ever dissociated and floating above the timeline.

When directed to into events he was fine whilst travelling and associating. When asked to float above an event he started spinning

MrDigital
01-05-2008, 01:52 PM
Associated - spinning looking down at his timeline ..

Connie
01-05-2008, 02:06 PM
I like SG's version of "spinning." :) I like to have people physically walk on their timeline, stepping off, stepping on, very trancey. No one's even spun!

MrDigital
01-05-2008, 03:11 PM
Space was restricted or we would have utilised kinesthetic Timeline also..

Hopefully some spinning and dancing on the way back home then :)

Docresults
01-05-2008, 03:36 PM
What would you advise your client if this was the case ?

I could ask what it felt like it meant to the client OR depending on if I was gonna utilize the spinning for remedial or generative change...

(If remedial change I'd ask is it spinning like a liberal or a conservative and what is the story being spun? And then notice what happens to the spin. Does it change the color of the time-line, is it brighter, bigger, fuller, etc)

(Generatively I'd ask the client to notice now as he looks back on the spinning how it was his super-conscious (choose your label...high-self, Source, God, Divinity) spinning solutions into every area of his life and since everything is holographically connected notice how any one solution created multiple solutions in just the right way and in all the right place for all of life too and as Gomer Pyle would say, "It sure is fun, fun, fun.)

To Your Best,
Doc

MrDigital
01-05-2008, 04:40 PM
And everyone else..

I will use the rudders/steering wheel/ auto pilot as a last resort ...

Also some pre flight suggestions along your lines may be order of the day :)

MrD

Poodle
01-05-2008, 10:31 PM
That's probably no worse than when I was above mine and was a Cherub flapping my wings. I was just told to float above so apparently to my SC mind floating = angels???? The SC is very creative and I was really tranced out.

I love your statement about rockets.

After watching hours of the debates tonite I loved Houston's comment -- like a liberal or conservative.

Don
01-06-2008, 01:48 AM
Ok sorry I will care to explain.

A client goes up above the timeline and then mentions spinning around....
So in this context spinning = whirling, rotating etc.

regards

MrD


That's perfect! Every time you spin the work we are doing becomes more and more effective. Each revolution results in greater success. Each rotation moves you closer to achieving what you want until it is absolutely inevitable that this will succeed! In fact, the feelings in your stomach during this session only, are the feelings of success.

skip
01-06-2008, 07:23 AM
"So in this context spinning = whirling, rotating etc."

Vertigo or horriblezontal axis?

Simple Guy
01-06-2008, 10:41 AM
MrDigital,

Should a person not be looking down at their time line while above it,
there would be an increased chance of "spinning."

MrDigital
01-09-2008, 03:08 AM
We utilised it as a sign of how this issue was emanating throughout his life and impacting his present issues.

His 31yr old Anger released and he stopped spinning as he entered other events with previous 'charge' and realised that had spun away...

He said whilst time-lining "I imagined I was Superman!". I replied "Just make sure you take your suit off before you associate into an event or you may find the context changes" :D

Many Thanks

MrD

Poodle
01-09-2008, 12:18 PM
I did the same but did not use a time line. I used a simple K swish and then took that great feeling and spun it and taught my client how to spin it with an auditory cue. My client was and is in absolute Heaven. Client had been medically diagnosed as "clinically depressed" complete with Prozac and years of "talk" therapy. Sad people had not bothered to listen to her.:)

MrDigital
01-09-2008, 01:01 PM
Sounds like some adidas trainers - oh that's K - Swiss :rolleyes:

Poodle
01-12-2008, 06:04 PM
Just got an e from Grinder. It says 40 days training before Trainer's Training. How many hours make up a "training day" to the good Dr.? Pood

MrDigital
01-13-2008, 10:41 AM
Just got an e from Grinder. It says 40 days training before Trainer's Training. How many hours make up a "training day" to the good Dr.? Pood

40 days training before trainers training?? No lo comprendo lo que dice :(

The last Trainer Training was basically a 9am - 6pm daily with trainers then tasked to come back from 7pm - 9pm to work with Practitioners. I am in contact with a couple of the trainers who trained on the last one so any specific questions I can ask on your behalf. I am also in contact with Micheal Caroll of the NLP Academy.

Are you paying the UK a visit pood ?????

MrD

MrDigital
01-13-2008, 10:44 AM
Also I will be seeing the Good Dr in March for more training and he is going mountain climbing with some friends of mine. I am trying to get him to my house so I can have photo's drinking Earl Grey in my back garden :D

Poodle
01-16-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh sooo kewl. Please post them when you get them. I'm not going to the UK, unfortunately. I received an invite to the Australia training. I'm just really glad that you really like John. Let me know the time and I'll lift a cuppa in honour but mine will be with cream -- never black. Stay well! Pood :)

Nigel H
02-08-2008, 06:19 PM
I have heard of people with vertigo having a problem floating 'way up there', which could cause his spinning sensation....

.... you could also reframe it to mean his unconscious is giddy with excitement at the work he is about to undertake .......

..... or the work going to put a new spin on his life from then on ........

.... ask him to float just high enough that the spinning does not exist, now .....


...... ask his unconscious what is the purpose of his spinning ..... what is it's highest intention - what it's trying to make him aware of, now, that needs to be dealt with in order for him to feel comfortable above his Time Line ..........

Some options perhaps....

Nig

Abra-melin
02-10-2008, 11:18 PM
Associated - spinning looking down at his timeline ..

I had one client with a similar experience. He was OK looking forward or backward, but looking directly down was an unpleasant issue.
Guess what it was........ he had a fear of heights which made him dizzy.
Fixed that and the problem went away.

Don
02-11-2008, 01:13 AM
Welcome to our forums, AM. That was a good catch. I hope you will post more.

Poodle
03-12-2008, 07:28 PM
correspondence that I had forgotten about with my first experience with TLT wherein I was the little cherub floating above my timeline flapping my wings. It seems as though my instructor was somewhat freaking out a little as he thought I was having an OBE. I had forgotten about that and just remembered the experience as being totally beyond fantastic. LOL!! Pood :)