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MrDigital
01-13-2008, 11:43 AM
When using timeline I have been getting a little confused in the following area. Example - Once the client is above the timeline looking down on the event the my purpose is to elicit intention and gather learnings.

e.g "now go to position (A), so you can see the choice point below you. Ask your unconscious to communicate the intention for XXXXXXXXXX below."

Assuming the above XXXXXXX is the emotion i.e anger,sadness,fear etc the client asks "what do you mean?"

I then reply what's the intention of the emotion?
metaphor that the unconscious has presented?

When I think about intention behind the emotions and the purpose of chunking I can see how it can give freedom from the 'charge' . However, I have noticed on the odd occasions when I ask the question of intent and then "for what purpose" some confusion and slight irritation with the question - then 'HAPPINESS'. It seemed on occasion incongruent when they give that nominalisation (as if said because they don't fully understand the concept) though and although they still get the desired effect from the work i.e emotional release I am wondering about the way I am wording it.

Working content free makes it nice and clean but due to not knowing anything in relation to what's presented how would you work with intent?

Hope the question doesn't come across as dumb as I have been struggling to get my head around this aspect.

MrD

MrDigital
01-13-2008, 12:16 PM
I then reply what's the intention of the emotion?
metaphor that the unconscious has presented?

or what?

How would you describe?

Merlin
01-13-2008, 01:04 PM
When using timeline I have been getting a little confused in the following area. Example - Once the client is above the timeline looking down on the event the my purpose is to elicit intention and gather learnings.

MrD

Is this the current teaching, to elicit intention?

MrDigital
01-13-2008, 01:23 PM
Yes merlin

MrDigital
01-15-2008, 02:15 AM
Where I was taught, we were to work content free & ask for intent...

We were also encouraged to use them as a model only and apply our own creativity and individuality.

Bit different to another training that stated you had to read from the manual no matter how well you thought you knew the scripts!

Merlin
01-15-2008, 11:30 AM
Interesting.
This is the first time i've heard of this method being applied to TLT.

Poodle
01-15-2008, 11:47 AM
me too. What exactly is the source of this "different" version? Pood :confused: We are seeking "learning". Also checked on the latest I have from ''Tad" which is 2004 and it is still "learning(s)". Even the emotions are "let go" into "learnings". I'm unaware of anyone that uses a lengthy script in TLT. :)

MrDigital
01-17-2008, 02:25 PM
Time Line re-patterning and taught via Micheal Caroll at the NLP academy in the UK.

The fact that I am not getting the INTENT bit and peoples unfamiliarity of elicitation in this context is encouraging to say the least. I will delve deeeeeeeper..

Poodle
01-19-2008, 11:53 AM
Keep us posted! Did you notice the new member on the UK forum that uses "emotrance"? Pood :)

MrDigital
01-24-2008, 02:45 AM
I asked - In the context of Time-line re-patterning (Elicit Intention) for what purpose?

'Hey mate

Purpose multiple here are few

Above they are in different perceptual position

They may never have known there was an intention

They get to decide with what they know now

P.S I am In vegas I will expand further later (Jealousy neurons Kick in here)'

Poodle
01-24-2008, 12:35 PM
You are in Vegas??? In the USA?? Why not stop over on your way home!! As you know, I have the tea. Yes, my jealousy neurons are on O.T. but I'd rather be going to Orlando, FL for DHE. 2011 -- DRATS!!!! Pood :)

MrDigital
01-25-2008, 03:15 AM
No poodle not me in Vegas - one of my trainer friends :mad:

Poodle
01-26-2008, 01:00 PM
May have been a good thing as a large hotel/casino burned down yesterday in Vegas. That definitely would have been a vacation buster!! :eek: