To do Huna.. or to pray Huna..? that is the question...

[DonaldJ]

Re: "Huna Prayer"..?

A sensitive, and probably too extremely controversial, discussion for this spot.. but what the hell... Let's see what shakes out...:D


I was of the impression that the only "prayer" in Huna, is within the act of processing thought within ultra deep self trance, to enable the practitioner to enable and establish a specific level of mind over matter ability.. I.E.: walking on hot rock, or fire, and such...

I believe the use of prayer words and poems in anything Huna would only serve to neutralize the practitioner's abilities to perform the magic.. for prayer is but an effigy of a self-destructive portion of reality...

Given that words are but a complex blend of grunts and growls and hisses, and such.. and given that they evolve, whilst they devolve, words cannot hold any value in any of the solid foundation of classic mysticisms... Thus, prescribing to a "Huna prayer" would be same as the modern day prehistoric tribe building an effigy of an airplane out of twigs and vine, to entice "the sky god to visit them to enhance their lives"... I'd expect they would have built their airplane effigy a female, expecting the "sky god" to be male, of course...

The question remain: Is Huna prayer male, or female..?:rolleyes:

[Don]

DJ, currently there is a company advertising their software all over the radio. They tell people that by using their software, people anywhere can see what's on your computer. As a result, you can save money and increase results by staying at home and simply showing people what's on your computer.

IMO, this makes a fundamental error. It assumes that all communication is strictly through the transmission of specific data. In fact, most communication does not come through this data. Rather, it comes through such subtle things as body language, quality of the voice, charisma, the twinkle in one's eye and more. Virtually all of that is lost by using this software as suggested.

This is analogous to what you have suggested. You are correct that words "are but a complex blend of grunts and growls and hisses and such," but what you missed is that they are representative of a wide variety of information that is being exchanged, not just the words themselves.

Not only that, but you're assuming that there are other aspects of the words, such as the quality of the sound, including pitch, rhythm, etc. which can have a direct effect on the body/mind/spirit.

Thus, I would respectfully suggest that the reason certain prayers/chants/ritual sayings are effective is not only because of their specific meaning, but because of their sound, rhythm, and vibrational impact on the physical world.

This is not limited to Huna. The concept of the importance of specific sounds in certain orders is also found in ancient Sanskrit as presented in the study of Mantra Yoga, and within mystical Judaism.

[DonaldJ]

To add prayer to Huna, is like trying to do magic by saying "abrakadabra"...

Magic comes from the Spirit, and from the Being's core... Words are after the fact... Huna is Not a religion... Huna is a tool exclusive to the mind...

Adding prayer to Magic is like sticking ones head up ones arse and blowing bubbles...

[Docresults]

To add prayer to Huna, is like trying to do magic by saying "abrakadabra"...

Magic comes from the Spirit, and from the Being's core... Words are after the fact... Huna is Not a religion... Huna is a tool exclusive to the mind...

Adding prayer to Magic is like sticking ones head up ones arse and blowing bubbles...

DJ,

In Huna it is called a Pray Action, not a prayer. You could liken it as a symbolic representation for the sub/unconscious.

All Magic has ritual. Even "abrakadabra" with the right amount of intent and conditioned space could work. Not logical but possible. (Think switchwords or anchors or triggers)

Huna doesn't claim to be a religion. It claims to be a pseudo-scientific religion. There is a difference. (The Secret Science Behind Miracles.)

Huna attempts to answer the "How to" not the why or what as much. It is not the only 'how to' out there. It is just a useful one if one chooses to use it. It is about getting results more so than the label 'prayer', 'pray action', 'symbol'. Huna doesn't claim to be magic. It does attempt to explain 'how to do' religious magic, miracles, healing, manifestation, etc regardless of the label one chooses to use/believe... Christianity or Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, etc..

Find verbiage that works for you and do the drills and notice how your skill improves.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston