My Spiritual Quest - Meeting Hawaiian Goddess Pele In The Flesh

[Huna_Priest]

Greetings Everyone,
I Have been busy making preparations for my 11 day trip to Hawaii in May...
I have been a Hawaiian Huna Priest for over 35 years...
The last time I visted Hawaii was many years ago...


The ancient Hawaiian religion is called Huna and goes back to about 10,000 years ago..
The Hawaiian Huna religion is ruled by the ancient Hawaiian God's and Goddesses from mythology...
Goddess Pele is the "most powerful" of any of the Hawaiian God's or Goddesses...
Goddess Pele is a Fire Goddess and a Goddess of volcanos, and Vocano Kilauea on the Big Island is her home in the Hawaiian Islands...


Every year many thousands of tourists from all over the world visit Volcano Kilauea located in the state park on the Big Island, and sneak a piece of lava into their pocket or purse to take home as a souvenir...
Of course Goddess Pele heavily curses any mortal man or woman that dares to steal a piece of her volcano...
So every year thousands of tourists mail the piece of Goddess Pele's lava that they took home with them back to the state park in Hawaii, sometimes with a note apologizing to Goddess Pele for taking her lava and asking Goddess Pele to remove her curse from them...


Any of you that don't believe what I just stated can easily verify the truth of what I just said by typing "Goddess Pele" into any search engine and seeing for yourself that what I just said is posted on different websites about Goddess Pele...


Additinally Goddess Pele is well known for frequently materializing into the physical plane in Hawaii and walking among mortal man and mortal woman posing as a elderly homeless woman...
Goddess Pele posing as an elderly homeless woman will ask people for money or food or something to drink...
Anyone that is respectful to her and grants her request is silently blessed by Goddess Pele...
Any one that disrespects Godees Pele or will not give her what she requests, then Goddess Pele will silently curse that person...
Her curse will result in that person actually becoming homeless, like she was pretending to be...


Anyway now that I have given all of you some background on Goddess Pele, I will tell you why I am visiting Hawaii in May... As a Hawaiian Huna Priest Goddess Pele is my Goddess...


I am going to Hawaii on the spiritual quest of meeting Goddess Pele, face-to-face in the physical plane, as one of her priests... I know that meeting Goddess Pele face-to-face in the physical plane will be the most profound spiritual experience that I ever had in my entire life...

Joy... Happiness... Bliss...
Huna Priest

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My piece of lava sits proudly on my desk.

The Goddess Pele made it available to me as a token of the unbreakable bond between us, and thru it she has blessed my life, many times over.

I would never think of insulting her, by rejecting her gift.

love and light,

skip

[Poodle]

Aumakua - always with me and I never have to do Ho'oponopono. Pood :)

[Huna_Priest]

Greetings Skip,

Yes... Goddess Pele can and does occassionally give someone a piece of her lava as a gift...

When Goiddess Pele gives someone a piece of her lava as a gift, then of course, her gift is a blessing instead of a curse...

I will assume that the reason that you know that the piece of lava you have on your desk, is a gift from Goddess Pele is because you have two way telepathic communication with Goddess Pele, and that Goddess Pele telepathically told you it was a gift from her... Am I correct ??

Are you also a Huna Priest like I am ??

Since, as you say, that you have an unbreakable bond between you and Goddess Pele, have you ever tried to meet her face-to-face in the physical plane, as I am going to do in May ??

When I go to Hawaii to see Goddess Pele in May, I am taking a gift with me for her, that I have specially chosen for her...

Joy... Happiness.. Bliss...
Huna Priest

[skip]

No I am not a priest.

I wouldnt presume that she telapathically spoke with me, I just 'knew', just as I 'know' now, that she walks with me daily.

I wish you well on your pilgrimage.

I feel no need to 'go there' as I feel she is 'here' with me.

But that is for me, others do as they are led.

cheers,

skip

[The Length]

I wouldnt presume that she telapathically spoke with me, I just 'knew', just as I 'know' now, that she walks with me daily.


lol.


how did your 'spiritual quest' go. sounds like fun. hawaii is a nice place tho.

[Docresults]

Huna Priest,

I sincerely send my intention that you get your request from/with Goddess Pele. And that it allows you to carry her presence with you when you leave so she will be with you and you will have total access to Poe Aumakua anytime you put your attention there.

To Your Best,
Doc Houston

[Huna_Priest]

My piece of lava sits proudly on my desk.

The Goddess Pele made it available to me as a token of the unbreakable bond between us, and thru it she has blessed my life, many times over.

I would never think of insulting her, by rejecting her gift.

love and light,

skip


Aloha Skip,

I went to Hawaii for 2 weeks last month in September, instead of in May 08....

Goddess Pele personally gave me a most remarkable and amazing piece of her lava...

It is in the perfect shape of a heart...
I call it my "Heart of Pele" lava stone...


Love... Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest

[Huna_Priest]

lol.


how did your 'spiritual quest' go. sounds like fun. hawaii is a nice place tho.


Aloha Length,

Thanks for asking... :-)

I spent 2 weeks in Hawaii last month in September...

The best way that I can describe being in Hawaii was, it was like dying and going to heaven...

You know from my last post to Skip, that Goddess Pele personally gave me a piece of her lava in the perfect shape of a heart...

And I did see Goddess Pele face-to-face in the flesh while I was in Hawaii...

I will never be the same again, from having stood in her physical presence...

I haven't told all of you this yet, but I am a "Kaula Pele" ( that's Hawaiian for Priest Of Pele )...

Which is the reason why Goddess Pele gave me the honor of seeing her face-to-face in the flesh...

Goddess Pele was invisibly with me the entire time I was in Hawaii, except of course when she was physically with me...

I will give you more details later if you are interested in hearing more...

Love...Life... Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest

[Don]

Goddess Pele personally gave me a most remarkable and amazing piece of her lava...

It is in the perfect shape of a heart...
I call it my "Heart of Pele" lava stone...


You should be aware that Pele does not like those who take her flesh from the islands. Almost every day, the post office gets pieces of lava from people who have taken gifts from Pele away. Bad fortune has befallen them all.

[Huna_Priest]

You should be aware that Pele does not like those who take her flesh from the islands. Almost every day, the post office gets pieces of lava from people who have taken gifts from Pele away. Bad fortune has befallen them all.


Hey Don,

Yes... You are absolutely correct...
Every year 10,s of thousands of people are cursed for daring to take a piece of Goddess Pele's lava home with them...

When I was in Hawaii in September, I did see Goddess Pele face-to-face in the flesh...

And Goddess Pele personally gave me my piece of her lava, as a present, which is in the perfect shape of a heart...

I will forever be changed from having stood in the physical presence of Goddess Pele !

Love...Life...Light...
Kaula Pele
Huna Priest

[The Length]

thats great huna, im so thrilled you enjoyed it. beware of the curse tho :eek:

[The Length]

ps. nice to see someone finaly saw the light (pun intended) and allowed for the editing of posts. lol. hope it didnt cause to much trauma.

[Huna_Priest]

thats great huna, im so thrilled you enjoyed it. beware of the curse tho


Thanks Length....

Do you really think Goddess Pele would personally give me a piece of her lava as a present, and then afterwards curse me instead ??

I will admit that Goddess Pele is known to be unpredictable, but Goddess Pele is honorable and not deceitful and would not curse me under the pretense of giving me a present...

By the way, you never said anything to Skip about his piece of Hawaiian lava...Below is his post to me from 2-29-08...



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My piece of lava sits proudly on my desk.

The Goddess Pele made it available to me as a token of the unbreakable bond between us, and thru it she has blessed my life, many times over.

I would never think of insulting her, by rejecting her gift.

love and light,
skip

[The Length]

Thanks Length....

Do you really think Goddess Pele would personally give me a piece of her lava as a present, and then afterwards curse me instead ??



im not sure to be honest, but don seems to be wary and don knows a lot -hes worked in telesales!

the only pele i know is the footballer. a very talanted chap with real skills, well worthy of being idolised.

as for curses...

[master_debator]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but considering Huna is a completely made up religion I really have to call a bull**** on this one. From all of my research, huna has nothing to do with Ancient Hawaiian traditions.

Its funny, I live in Hawaii, and none of the locals have heard of Huna. I guess its sooo secret that the Hawaiians here haven't even heard of it.

Also the ho'oponopono that you have been taught is more than likely not the original ho'oponopono. Even Simeona's ho'oponopono is not the original.

I'm actually going to be working on getting a podcast together with some TRUE Hawaiians about all of this. All of this will finally be laid to rest.

[Poodle]

Someone from the Midwest lives in Hawaii for a few years and is now an expert in Huna when a few months ago didn't know it existed. What m_d has failed to take into account is that Huna was before the islands were islands and believed to have been between 100AD and 750AD in age. That's about 1,000 years for the islands to become islands and Captain Cook to arrive.

He considers it a fraud. This in my model of the world is equal to saying that all 'energy' work is a fraud. Huna uses Hawaiian words and concepts. Usui Reiki uses Japanese words and writing. Since energy work is quite effective, does the age of the work or true origin of the work matter? Some people that practice energy work believe that Jesus went to live in India and died a very old man and what transpired was only a story. It's only a belief. You do not have to adopt all beliefs.

If you want to participate (learn) in energy work, Huna has some very nice concepts. For me, it works very well when combined with hypnosis or Reiki. It's your life to pick and choose that which works for you in your model of the world. What untrained people have to say is of zero consequence.

Poodle
Reiki Master/Teacher -- 2 disciplines

[skip]

md,

I am curious about something.

'Sorry to burst your bubble, but considering Huna is a completely made up religion ...'

Can you name me any religion that isnt 'made up'?

For example; Islam was 'made up' by Mohamid. Christiasnity didnt exist before Christ, so wouldnt you agree both were 'made up' after the teachings of each?

Or is your definition of 'made up' different from mine?

Not bursting any bubbles of mine.

skip

[master_debator]

Poodle, I knew of Huna for at least 6 years. When I first moved to Kaua'i (the oldest of the Islands), I asked quite a few locals if they knew about Huna. Most of them haven't heard of it, and the ones that had heard of it simply laughed and told me that it was b.s. I guess its so secret that the locals here have never heard of it. While Huna may have some nice concepts, it is not Hawaiian, ancient Hawaiian, etc. Now as to Huna existing before the Islands were Islands? I think it would be wise to have some actual Hawaiians chime in on this, don't you think?

Antonio aka m_d

Someone from the Midwest lives in Hawaii for a few years and is now an expert in Huna when a few months ago didn't know it existed. What m_d has failed to take into account is that Huna was before the islands were islands and believed to have been between 100AD and 750AD in age. That's about 1,000 years for the islands to become islands and Captain Cook to arrive.

He considers it a fraud. This in my model of the world is equal to saying that all 'energy' work is a fraud. Huna uses Hawaiian words and concepts. Usui Reiki uses Japanese words and writing. Since energy work is quite effective, does the age of the work or true origin of the work matter? Some people that practice energy work believe that Jesus went to live in India and died a very old man and what transpired was only a story. It's only a belief. You do not have to adopt all beliefs.

If you want to participate (learn) in energy work, Huna has some very nice concepts. For me, it works very well when combined with hypnosis or Reiki. It's your life to pick and choose that which works for you in your model of the world. What untrained people have to say is of zero consequence.

Poodle
Reiki Master/Teacher -- 2 disciplines

[master_debator]

Good point Skip, I should have been more concise in my wording. Huna is a fake religion that was created in the 19th century that is piggy backing off of the Hawaiian culture and misappropriating Hawaiian concepts.
md,

I am curious about something.

'Sorry to burst your bubble, but considering Huna is a completely made up religion ...'

Can you name me any religion that isnt 'made up'?

For example; Islam was 'made up' by Mohamid. Christiasnity didnt exist before Christ, so wouldnt you agree both were 'made up' after the teachings of each?

Or is your definition of 'made up' different from mine?

Not bursting any bubbles of mine.

skip

[Don]

MD, even assuming that is true, what's your point?

There are thousands of people around the world who are bettering their lives through Huna, whatever its source may be.

How many people are YOU helping? How many lives have YOU changed for the better?

[skip]

Cant help but wonder if there werent more than a few Jews who felt as if Christianity co-opted their religion. Just as the early Christians felt that Islam co-opted theirs.

And I know more than a few Druids took offense at Christianity taking over their holidays, like Christmas and Easter.

As Don has asked, "So what?"

Do you know enough about Huna to attack it credibly.

By that I mean can you demonstrate that its precepts do not work?

Curious.

skip

[master_debator]

Instead of replying to Don's post and yours, I'll try to conserve some space here. Skip, I am not disagreeing that Huna has some very wonderful concepts and techniques. The problem I have with Huna is how it is attached to Hawaiian culture, when it really has nothing to do with it.

While I can't say that I know exactly how some of the locals here in Hawaii feel about the "raping" of their culture, I have somewhat similar experiences. What I am talking about is how many people have been trying to tell me that my Mesoamerican relatives have predicted x many things for 2012. What they fail to understand is that the Mayan Calendar is a cyclic calendar and that it keeps on going on and on. It gets kind of aggravating when people tell me that the Mayans predicted the end of the world (or any other such nonsense). Mind you, this is pretty minimal compared to what some of the Hawaiians have dealt with, especially in having to re-educate some folks.

I've been talking to quite a few Hawaiians that are very knowledgeable about their culture. One of them in particular is planning on writing a book about Huna.

Anyhow, I was asked by a friend to post this reply on this thread.


"Your statements can not be verified whatsoever....that Huna was before the islands and captain cook. Where is your proof for this?? Huna is absolutely not an ancient Hawaiian practice. It was invented by Americans just in the last century. The practice is not even remotely familiar to native Hawaiian cultural practitioners and actually goes against native Hawaiian belief systems.

While I'm sure this practice can be very useful for some people, especially for making money, the problem with it is that it exploits and rewrites Hawaiian culture in order to do this, which then has a negative impact on Hawaiian people. For this reason, we can not just say - to each his own. Yes people are free to do whatever they want, but they are not free from the consequences of their actions.

Since this practice is actually made by Americans, why can't Americans carry out this practice without exploiting other people's cultures in order to do so?? Why doesn't it have any credit without attaching it to Hawaiian people?? And if people are so interested in preserving ancient belief systems, why would those same people be putting so much energy into trying to rewrite those belief systems with their own??



Cant help but wonder if there werent more than a few Jews who felt as if Christianity co-opted their religion. Just as the early Christians felt that Islam co-opted theirs.

And I know more than a few Druids took offense at Christianity taking over their holidays, like Christmas and Easter.

As Don has asked, "So what?"

Do you know enough about Huna to attack it credibly.

By that I mean can you demonstrate that its precepts do not work?

Curious.

skip

[Connie]

Tempest in a teapot. And it's only blowing one way, those winds--and they seem quite confused. Maybe Huna should be looked at like any resource, less of the "why?" and pigeon-holing its originating links and nonlinks and more of the "how" and utilizing it in a positive manner.

[Poodle]

Antonio, Forgive me please. I mistakenly thought Hawaii was a State in the USA and now Hawaii is anti-American? You wrote 19th century (1800's) and then in the 1900's? Confusion! The President of the USA was born in Hawaii. Does that make him a native Hawaiian or just an American? Is he the President of native Hawaiians and do they follow the laws of the government of the USA being anti-American as you wrote?

Perhaps the Arabic countries should complain loudly because we adopted their numeric system. Perhaps England should complain loudly as we don't have our own language and borrowed theirs. Sorry Italy. We borrowed the Roman Numerals too. Perhaps we should all go back in time in America, whatever that word means as there are two of them and many to various countries in each, and adopt the Native American cultures as they are the 'real' Americans and we can adopt their systems of religion and all beliefs. Our native cultures and languages are undoubtedly as good as any other native could think of. Perhaps we should all just go back to Africa whence humans evolved.

I firmly believe it is totally disengenuinous of you to write your crap on this Forum...to send and receive PM's...to read people's wishes on your own little 'page'...all at the expense of this Forum which is NOT your own personal bully pulpit. This is expensive to maintain and you certainly do not contribute to it's wealth. You only take Antonio. How many years have you been here? You have expected to use our collective minds to do that which you refused to learn. Go do what you want. Please do it away from those that care and work to maintain integrity of this Forum and our chosen fields of endeavor and expertise.

Adios Antonio. No puedo decir ha sido un placer porq' no ha sido~Pood
(Bye Antonio. I can't say it's been a pleasure because it hasn't)

[Don]

The problem I have with Huna is how it is attached to Hawaiian culture, when it really has nothing to do with it.

So why do YOU have this problem?
Are you a Kanaka Maoli or even a Kama'aina?
Why is this such a problem for YOU?
Why are YOU parading YOUR problems here?

While I can't say that I know exactly how some of the locals here in Hawaii feel about the "raping" of their culture, I have somewhat similar experiences. What I am talking about is how many people have been trying to tell me that my Mesoamerican relatives have predicted x many things for 2012.

The phenomenon of cultural theft is not new. It's existed for thousands of years with ancient Jews stealing middle-eastern myths and calling them their own, with the Romans stealing the Greek Gods, with the misinterpretations and invented interpretations of Egyptian hieroglyphs by the Germans and British, by the attempt by some Christians to reinterpret (i.e. misinterpret) Jewish mysticism in order to prove to Jews that Jesus is the Jewish messiah.

If you have an issue with what some people are doing re: 2012, why not stick to that issue?

Do you understand what is going on here? This has nothing to do with Huna or 2012. It has to do with YOU and YOUR personal issues.

What they fail to understand is that the Mayan Calendar is a cyclic calendar and that it keeps on going on and on. It gets kind of aggravating when people tell me that the Mayans predicted the end of the world (or any other such nonsense). Mind you, this is pretty minimal compared to what some of the Hawaiians have dealt with, especially in having to re-educate some folks.

And what you fail to understand is that any supposed usurpation of a word is minuscule compared to the real treatment that many native Hawaiians have received from outsiders. If you're really offended over the treatment of Hawaiians, how about starting a charity for the poor on the islands and putting your efforts into that? Of course, I doubt if you will because you don't really care about the people of Hawaii, this is about you and your personal issues.

I've been talking to quite a few Hawaiians that are very knowledgeable about their culture. One of them in particular is planning on writing a book about Huna.

Anyhow, I was asked by a friend to post this reply on this thread.

Wow! so "quite a few" (how many? A thousand? A hundred? 3?) are so upset about this that they're too freakin' lazy to go to a keyboard and post here? Instead they say, "Hey, bra. We're really upset about this. Will you post something for us?"

Give me a break!

... has a negative impact on Hawaiian people.

How, specifically, has it had a negative impact on Hawaiian people? Are there thousands dying of hunger? Are tens of thousands protesting in the streets? What is the specific problem? And if the impact is so horrible, why is this person to lazy to join and post himself? It wouldn't cost anything.

Why can't Americans carry out this practice without exploiting other people's cultures in order to do so?

And why is more unHawaiian spam (the meat) brought into Hawaii per capita than any other state? How can you stand by and let the Hawaiians exploit the makers of spam? And pineapple isn't native to the Hawaiian islands, either. Why aren't you out there demanding that all pineapple trees on the islands be destroyed? And why isn't there a movement to changes everyone's name back to the Hawaiian and away from the Asian?

How many times have you been to Hawaii? My friend, the late Scott Cunningham, visited Hawaii numerous times and spent ten years of study in the libraries and museums on the islands, as well as interviewing many island elders. You can find his work in the book currently titled, Cunningham's Guide to Hawaiian Magic & Spirituality.

At least your friend is doing something practical. He's writing a book. What are you doing of value? Oh, that's right, you're complaining on a website. You're a real Nelson Mandela.

My suggestions:
1) If you want to help the Hawaiian people, do so. Start a charity and spend 80-100 hours a week raising funds for the poor of Hawaii.
2) Deal with your own issues. What's going on here really has nothing to do with Hawaii. It's all about your personal issues.

[skip]

I suspect you have taken on a pretty large and thankless task, identifying (correctly or not) and 'straightening out' all the people who are co-opting someone elses culture.

But enjoy yourself and thanks for the fish.

skip